[Deptheads] So Cal ASL Demo

Fri Apr 4 09:57:10 PDT 2008

Patrick, don't bullshit the bullshitter. 

  Boardgaming exists because we throw money there.  Throw $1000 at RPGA and they will triple in size too.  Prize money brings attendees and keeps them coming back.  Offer $200 Halo tourneys and we will be swamped with Halo players.  

  We just saved $5000 by throwing RPGs under the bus.   The loss of private rooms will diminish RPG attendance by anywhere from 25% - 60%, depending on the reaction of the GMs so we need to fill those numbers from somewhere else.   Just for comparison, when Conquest SF dropped private rooms, they lost 40% of RPG attendees and the difference in RPG between Conquest LA 1 and 2 was an 80% drop.   Hopefully the D&D 4e push will minimize the loss for us. 

  If we could entice 50+ ASL people to come by putting $500 into prizes for a Welcome Back tourney, that would be very good business.   I suggest these prizes be bought with our wholesale license instead of dealer dollars to maximize the amount of goodies. 

  Strategicon has had new ownership for a year.   That was the soft sell time.  Any group that has not returned needs a hard sell.  

  - Robert

Patrick Havert <patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
          Robert,

  Their peeve is the previous admin asked them to stop coming to the con, as they took space away from CCG players.

  We will NOT throw money at anyone.  The SoCal ASL club comes so they can recruit more people to play ASL.  They provide some prizes, and sell ASL in the dealers room.  It is a win-win for both of us, even if we do not run a giant ASL tourney like they do.  Hopefully they'll be willing to run their february con here at our february con, but hard selling them is a bad choice, and one we don't have to make.

  In Boardgames we have $1000 less then the previous admin to give prizes, so we need to use them judiciously.  This is a BUSINESS, and we need to take that into consideration, as otherwise this con will be gone.

  -Patrick
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Lionheart 
  To: deptheads at strategicon.net 
  Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [Deptheads] So Cal ASL Demo

  What is the ASL's main peeve? 

  If we want to lure them back, how about giving their leadership Special Guest status and throwing several ASL tourneys with lots of prize support.  If we really want them to show, then throw dollars at the problem.  

  If dollars doesn't heal the rift, then its time to develop our own ASL team.   We can throw in a case of Ensure as a peace offering.

  - R

thatericn at aol.com wrote:
  Hey all:

Actually last year, a few other club members came by as well, purchasing badges.  What was nice with this year's negotiation was that it really wasn't a negotiation - I just reminded them of the event and re-extended the invite... Done.  

My suggestion would be to inquire about possibly getting them more involved in the future.  Orccons are probably out of the picture now, since they have a competing event in Feb., but maybe we can strengthen their interest, and get them to Gateway too.  If we can build trust, my hope would be that down the line we could get them with us at Orccons, possibly running a con-within-the-con, not unlike the Warhammer event.

No matter what, it feels better to have some of they old rifts healing or vanishing.  Having a healthy ASL presence is likely to be a strong word-of-mouth topic with about 20% of our attendees; especially if it shows up in reviews and blogs.

Eric N.

-----Original Message-----
From: Heather Hughes <heather at gibsongirl.net>
To: deptheads at strategicon.net
Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Deptheads] So Cal ASL Demo

    That's good, Devi contacted them a year ago, and told them about the new convention ownership.  They still were not very interested in coming.  We know they are a group of about 75 members, but I guess 3 is better than none, and maybe they will continue to come in greater numbers as time goes on.  

  Heather

  On 4/1/08, thatericn at aol.com <thatericn at aol.com> wrote:     Hello all, but particularly Patrick and Eric A.:

I got an enthusiastic response from the So Cal ASL Club.  Their president, Jim Aikens, has confirmed their attendance, with the same number of badges as last year (3).

Patrick, if you'd like, I'll pass along your e-mail address to him, if you want...

Eric N.

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