[Deptheads] Re: Computer Room Tourneys
Norman Carlson
carlsonnorm at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 8 10:06:11 PST 2008
We need to attract the family to the con, as Patrick stated "The
con
is
getting
older,
and
we
need
it
to
get
younger
or
our
con
is
dying
a
slow
death", we started working on this in 2005, by acquiring a licensed bonded company to run a kids room. Lisa was handling this for us and has a lot of information that we could probably get from her. If i remember correctly she had a company that we where considering in right before the con was sold.
Norm
----- Original Message ----
From: DB <noldor at gmail.com>
To: deptheads at strategicon.net
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2008 7:54:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Re: Computer Room Tourneys
I
think
we
should
put
Rob
in
charge
of
day
care.
I
imagine
pursuits
throughout
the
con
like
something
out
of
Logan's
Run.
Carousel!
Carousel!
-
Den
-----Original
Message-----
From:
"Karl
Kreder"
<zeotter at gmail.com>
Date:
Fri,
8
Feb
2008
07:51:32
To:deptheads at strategicon.net
Subject:
Re:
[Deptheads]
Re:
Computer
Room
Tourneys
We
have
a
large
family
group
of
3
families
worth
of
kids
(about
8-10
of
them,
ages
from
around
6
to
13)
and
4
adults.
They
have
come
to
the
last
3
cons
and
say
that
they
bring
the
kids
to
get
them
off
the
video
games
for
a
weekend.
Just
an
FYI
On
Feb
7,
2008
10:30
PM,
Robert
Lionheart
<spinachcat at yahoo.com
<mailto:spinachcat at yahoo.com>
>
wrote:
If
you
truly
want
to
tap
the
family
market,
you
need
a
fully
funded
kids
room
with
babysitting
/
kids
play
volunteers.
Kubla
has
this
and
its
a
huge
resource
drain,
but
they
are
betting
on
the
long
term
idea
of
a
family
oriented
convention.
An
enhanced
video
game
room
is
a
double-edged
situation.
While
should
bring
the
attention
of
the
younger
audience,
you
run
the
distinct
risk
of
such
an
area
becoming
a
"kids'
area"
when
the
convention
is
not
set
up
with
personnel
to
deal
with
such
an
area.
The
security
issues
alone
are
quite
daunting
as
are
equipment
liabilities.
One
time
a
kid
goes
missing
due
to
completely
innocent
wandering
and
you
can
bet
the
crap
will
hit
the
fan
at
high
speed.
While
this
may
not
have
been
an
issue
when
only
a
handful
of
kids
are
present,
try
to
juggle
this
problem
with
five
times
the
number
of
young
children.
Also,
is
ANYONE
on
our
!
staff
trained
and
licensed
to
monitor
children
in
a
commercial
space?
Also,
I
do
not
believe
we
have
to
aim
that
young
at
all.
The
high
school
/
college
crowd
/
young
adult
market
is
very
good
and
the
older
/
returning
gamer
is
another
choice
target.
If
the
convention
wants
to
focus
on
family
entertainment
that
is
quite
possible
BUT
there
would
need
to
be
significant
changes
to
make
that
happen.
To
make
that
happen,
the
convention would
need
a
much
more
mundane
family
game
track. Stuff
that
people
recognize.
I
don't mean members
of
BBG.
I
mean
people
who
shop
at
ToysRus
and never
heard
of
Catan.
I
am
taking
Chutes
&
Ladders
and
games
where
families
can
play
as
a
whole with
other
families.
You
would
have
to
Disneyesque
things
to
a
great
degree.
There
would
have
to
be
MUCH
more
focus
aimed
at
entertaining
the
6-10
year
old
and
their
parents
at
the
same
event.
If
you
look
at
family
marketing,
you
will
see
that
the family
focused
event
marketing
has
a
maj!
or
keystone
-
they
market
the
idea
that
only
people
there
are
other
fa
milies. Families
view
this
as
an
important
factor
in
the
assumption
of
fun
and
safety.
Go
view
advertisements
for
zoos,
Legoland,
Whatever
on
Ice and
other
family
focused
events.
They
do
NOT
include
single males
in
their
marketing.
In
fact,
these
people
do
not
exist
in
Family
Marketing
World.
Last
time
I
checked,
males
attending
without
kids
is
our
main
demographic.
Otherwise,
just
saying
"sure,
bring
your
kids"
is
not
enough
to
draw
anyone.
Currently,
there
is
NO
reason
to
bring
your
family
to
the
convention
if
you
have
6-11
year
old
children. We
have ZERO
focus
on
their
needs
and
we
do
NOT
have
a
child
secure
atmosphere.
-
Robert
Patrick
Havert
<patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net
<mailto:patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net>
>
wrote:
Robert,
As
head
of
marketing
do
you
think
Teen
parents
may
look
at
the
website?
Come
on
and
grow
up,
unless
we
do
something
that
younger
kids
can
attend
they
have
no
reason
to
go
to
the
con
and
neither
do
their
families.
If
we
eliminate
that
group
for
a
few
years,
do
you
think
they'll
really
come
back?
The
con
is
getting
older,
and
we
need
it
to
get
younger
or
our
con
is
dying
a
slow
death.
I
admit
that
teens
are
better,
but
we
want
people
to
be
able
to
bring
their
families,
if
we
don't
let's
just
put
up
signs
on
the
website
that
say
12+
years
old
only
so
we
can
eliminate
any
family
groups
with
younger
kids.
If
you
can
explain
why
lounge
is
better
than
Zone
for
teens,
I'd
love
to
hear
it.
You
seem
pretty
jaded
for
someone
trying
to
get
people
to
attend
the
con,
maybe
we
should
call
it one
of
your
names to
really
lower
expectations.
-Patrick
-----
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Message
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F!
rom:
Robert
Lionheart
<mailto:spinachcat at yahoo.com>
To:
deptheads at strategicon.net
<mailto:deptheads at strategicon.net>
Sent:
Thursday,
February
07,
2008
5:14
PM
Subject:
Re:
[Deptheads]
Re:
Computer
Room
Tourneys
Oh
gods
Patrick,
are
we
doing
it
"for
the
children"?
That's
it!
We're
going
with
Video
Game
Bordello! Halo
Orgy
starts
at
noon!
I
like
the
non-family
connotation
of
Lounge because
we
do
not
want
the
Video
Game
Space
become
the
Babysitter
Zone.
We
do
not
want
parents
using
the
con
as
a
dump
zone
for
their
rugrats.
I
am
quite
sure
Janice
isn't
signing
up
for
Strategicon
Day
Care,
aka Dungeons
&
Diapers.
We
want
teens,
not
kids,
as
attendees.
Kids
are
walking
liabilities.
Teens
are
walking
wallets
and
awesome
impule
buyers
for
the
dealer's
room. Kids
are
a
resource
drain
while
Teens
are
networking
gold.
The
12+
crowd
is
far
far
far
more
desirable
than
the
6-11
range.
-
Robert
Patrick
Havert
<patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net
<mailto:patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net>
>
wrote:
I
agree
with
Janice
in
that
Lounge
has
a
kind
of
non-family
connotation
associated
with
it,
that
we
do
not
want
to
foster.
How
about
Video
Game
Zone,
Video
Games
Live,
or Interactive
Gaming?
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