[Deptheads] Re: Moving the Convention

[Evil5757 at aol.com]

Well,
 
honestly, if you look at equidistancing the Convention Site with our gaming  
population groups, the center hub would probably be the 57/91  
interchange.....about 40 miles from everything.  I'm also wondering if we  would pick up 
anyone if we were closer to a major public transportation hub, but  knowing the 
gaming community that would be a VERY small increase.  Everyone  drives because 
of the need to fill your trunk with as much crap as you can  before you go to 
convention.
 
This was also brought up during the feedback seminar (which I'll hit  on more 
in my general after action report to everyone), and it was actually  
suggested about having a convention further East.
 
My suggestion here is:
 
Research the demographics.  If Riverside is supporting **3** gaming  stores 
at the same time within 3 miles of each other, that tells me their  gaming 
population is significant and we need to reach out to it.
 
Research ALL possible convention sites EAST of the 57 freeway and VERIFY  
their data on square feet, parking, etc.
 
Keep in contact with the 3 best options.
 
**IF** we get screwed out of a weekend at the Radisson, go East for ONE  
convention WITH MUCH FANFARE AND COMMUNICATIONS and see what happens.
 
John
 
 
In a message dated 2/15/2008 1:22:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
spinachcat at yahoo.com writes:

While LA is a gamer wasteland, I do not know if that is equally true for  the 
Valley and South Bay.   We need to look at demographics,  population numbers 
and game stores to know if going to the OC is best.  

I am not negative on it, but we need  to do research.   LAX is very central 
for LA / Valley /  SB.  If we do move, we will lose known attendees in exchange 
for the  hope of more future new attendees.   Bird in the hand  vs. two in 
the bush... 
 
BTW, I have posted our marketing blurbs on IE gaming forums on Yahoo and  I 
have gotten emails for IE gamers who have been very positive on Strategicon  
and do attend. 

- R
 

DB <noldor at gmail.com> wrote:

I’d love to  see data on how many folks actually fly into LAX to attend the 
con as  opposed to driving in from out of town.  If the number isn’t  
significant, moving the con east towards IE wouldn’t be a bad  idea.

As far as I’m concerned, L.A. proper is a wasteland for gamers  and the con 
should move closer to suburban areas where gamers are at.  

But barring that — john, how do propose we appeal to the IE  crowd?  
Strategicon disenfranchised a lot of people in the ‘90s — the  IE folk are on a 
lengthy list.


On 2/14/08 11:09 PM,  "Evil5757 at aol.com" <Evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:


A big reason  for IE not showing up at GenCon was because very few had free 
passes.  I know one store in South OC that gave away 50 free passes for GC  
SoCal that they were given to bring attendance up.  IE stores didn't  get any (if 
so, very few).

Honestly, I really feel the reason  IE people don't do Strategicon is because 
Strategicon abandoned them.  There was no real effort to include IE in the 
mix.  All  expansion was aimed at Long Beach, OC, everywhere along the coast 
where  the main stockholders lived.  We need to give them a reason to drive  70 
plus miles to pay to come to our conventions.

At this  point, most IE people have other things planned for our weekends 
because  it's their "program."  We need to give them a reason to break out of  
their "program" and come and try us out.  It will need to be a  targeted 
campaign to be sure, but the GT event WILL have IE attendees,  hopefully bringing 
back word of what we are  doing.

John

In a message dated 2/13/2008 4:18:55  P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
spinachcat at yahoo.com writes:


Also, OC  has a bad history for cons.   Games University was a  really nice 
little con and most of the people I saw there were the  same people  who came 
to our events.   Also, OC/IE did  not turn out in  droves for GenCon SoCal.  



-  Robert













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