[Deptheads] Renaming the Cons

[Michael Russell]

I totally agree with Janice, there is an old saying "If it ant broke  
don't fix it" and the cons have had these name for around 25 years,  
and did very well with them in the 80"s and 90's (the downward turn of  
the cons was more due to bad management, not the names of the cons) so  
why change them now??  The cons are showing good improvement, lets  
keep that turnaround going. Changing the names will just add  
confusion.  Oh and Janice is right, ORCCON came from Orange County  
Convention- nothing to do with Orc's.

Mike R
On Feb 22, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Janice Sellers wrote:

> As much as I usually agree with Robert, I can't say I'm totally with
> him on this.  Major corporations involved in acquisitions and mergers
> spend billions of dollars studying recognition and perception factors
> before deciding which name they'll use, or if they'll come up with a
> new name.  The fact that they almost always use an existing name
> argues strongly in favor of keeping names that are already
> established, just for the recognition factor.  So not matter how fun
> and evocative the names might be we could come up with, we would be
> starting at a huge negative just getting people to acknowledge them.
> Think about the reactions when Mondo started his conventions -- no one
> recognized the name ConQuest, so most people were a little leery about
> it.  And if we still have three different conventions with three
> different names, even if all three names are cool, we still have
> trouble tying them all together.
>
> I've always assumed Strategicon was for "strategy convention" or
> something similar.  I have no idea how Alan came up with it or
> Gateway.  Gamex is fairly lame, I admit (though not as lame as
> GameCon, which really was a game convention in the Bay Area for a
> couple of years), but I've never thought of it as "gay mex."  We all
> seem to agree that OrcCon (for Orange County Convention, I've been
> told) is the only cool name we have.  If (and I really do mean IF) we
> feel the need to rename the conventions, why not name them all OrcCon?
> OrcCon Spring, OrcCon Summer, OrcCon Fall.  Or OrcCon Presidents'
> Day, OrcCon Memorial Day, OrcCon Labor Day  That way there's no
> question they're related, we keep name recognition, and it's a cool
> name.
>
> Janice
>
> On 2/22/08, Robert Lionheart <spinachcat at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The problem is Gamex and Gateway are terrible names.  They have  
>> been lame
>> since their first day.   There would be some initial rebranding,  
>> but right
>> now we have lots of people who do not know that Gamex and Gateway are
>> related to OrcCon or Strategicon.  I have seen various postings  
>> where people
>> say that Gateway is a boardgame only con and OrcCon is a RPG only  
>> con or
>> vice versa and lots of confusion about the fact all three cons are  
>> owned by
>> the same crew.
>> OrcCon is a good solid name.   Strategicon is an okay name, but  
>> never made
>> any sense because there is either no Strategicon event or there are  
>> three
>> events depending who you ask.   "Strategicon Presents" is a band-aid.
>> Gamex and Gateway do nothing for us.   The evoke nothing except  
>> hispanics
>> with alternative lifestyles and a cheap computer company.   In the  
>> long run,
>> rebranding with fun evocative names will be worth the changeover.
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