[Deptheads] More parking info
PJSZeta5 at aol.com
PJSZeta5 at aol.com
Thu May 1 02:55:38 PDT 2008
I concur that hotel is giving us more problems than expected I wish we was
still in the Westin LoL
In a message dated 4/30/2008 11:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
josemendiola at earthlink.net writes:
My 2 cents!!
After reading what each person has said and after what broken promises that
the Raddison has done. I believe to be a better idea to move the con.
After experiencing the way we were treated back in February and up to this
last weekend. The hotel was probably very aware of the parking lot to be
torn down but has clearly failed to let us know well in advance. No one
plans to just suddenly rebuild a parking structure without setting a date
well in advance.
Back in February. I got an earful of complaints from our partrons. Our
reputation as an organization is under the microsope. We stand to lose a
great number of patronage if we stay there.
> [Original Message]
> From: Eric M. Aldrich I <ealdrich at penguinlust.org>
> To: <deptheads at strategicon.net>
> Date: 4/30/2008 6:53:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] More parking info
>
> Tim pretty much spelled out the strategy exactly. We are trying to talk
to the Westin, as we only left since we had no choice. If I could get the
Hilton, I'd take it, but the only thing we have for certain is the Sheraton.
>
> Again, with this in mind, department heads should seriously look at:
>
> http://www.sheratonlosangeles.com/meetings/index.html
>
> I mean it. This might be our only choice if we want to move NOW, and it
needs to be studied as objectively as possible.
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:33:15PM -0700, Tim wrote:
> > Gamex '08 is kind of a done deal. I suggest we look at the bright side
> > of this. If this had to happen, Gamex is the con to have it happen to.
> > As Eric pointed out, this puts the Radisson in breach of contract.
> > Frankly I think we should be thankful. I don't think the Raddison is
> > viable simply from the standpoint of the rooms. I heard more
complaints
> > about the rooms than anything else. Forget the parking, forget the
> > layout...if the con attendees won't stay in the hotel, the rest doesn't
> > matter. We were also screwed by the change of ownership, but the
> > current situation is our "Get out of Jail Free Card" with the Radisson.
> > My opinion is we should make the best deal we can for Gamex and plan on
> > moving Gateway '08.
> >
> > Lets investigate the other hotels...stay in the rooms, check the dates
> > and layouts and decide which hotel works. Eric can pick people to
> > review them. We just need to be systematic and and get it done then we
> > can decide.
> >
> > If you want my two sesterces, I say we should look very seriously at
the
> > Sheraton and the Hilton. I would recommend we don't approach the
Westin
> > again any time soon. We will look like beggars with our "hats in our
> > hands". So for now that leaves the Sheraton and the Hilton. The
> > Sheraton has the dates free, the rooms are ok and I believe the
> > "frequent flyer miles" from the Westin work there. Those are two big
> > points in its favor.
> >
> > Anyway, like I said...those are my two sesterces.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > t.aldrich at comcast.net wrote:
> > >The Marriott is not an option. We have confirmation that all 3
weekends
> > >are booked by long standing re-occuring events.
> > >
> > >Gateway 2007 is being considered in the move.
> > >
> > >Gamex 2007 is unrealistic to move in less than 4 weeks.
> > >
> > >Our options at this time are
> > >Sheraton Gateway [Not the best layout, but they have all dates free,
> > >including Gateway 2007.]
> > >Hilton [Pretty good layout. Dates haven't been checked yet.]
> > >Westin [Workable layout. Dates haven't been checked yet.]
> > >
> > >We highly recommend as many people as possible visit both these above
> > >locations asap and see the layout and potential difficulties for
> > >themselves. This goes double for department heads that are actually in
the
> > >area.
> > >
> > >Radisson [Great layout, but you all know the problems by now.]
> > >
> > >We're considering all suggestions.
> > >
> > >Tanya
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > >From: Mike Fryer <Michael.Fryer at magtek.com>
> > >
> > >>Moving for Gateway is not a realistic goal, we could do it, but Hotels
> > >>will have space booked already. In the LAX area there are really only
> > >>four hotels that we can go to; Radisson, Westin, Hilton, and the
> > >>Marriott. Radisson is out of course, the Westin would screw us again
> > >>sooner or later, the Hilton was not very interested in having us, that
> > >>leaves the Marriott as our next best hope. Outside of LAX, the few
> > >>hotels that would work are in very expensive areas. The Sheraton
Gateway
> > >>might also work, but we would have to look at the rooms, I think there
> > >>are errors in their charts, the main ballroom may be much smaller than
> > >>they indicate.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Mike Fryer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>From: deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
> > >>[mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net] On Behalf Of Eric Burgess
> > >>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:08 PM
> > >>To: deptheads at strategicon.net
> > >>Subject: Re: [Deptheads] More parking info
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>That was unreal. I can't believe how shabbily they treat a regular
> > >>customer. I'd love to move this con but at the very least, Gateway
> > >>shouldn't be there.
> > >>
> > >>On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Robert Lionheart
<spinachcat at yahoo.com>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>This is such ridiculous BS we should call the Westin and Sheraton
> > >>>
> > >>today, and then change the con location tomorrow.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hell yeah!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Yesterday's treatment should be a wake up call for everyone. All our
> > >>work goes to making the hotel an extra $100,000 and more. You would
> > >>think that they could have a little respect for the people who make
this
> > >>money for them.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Here's the conservative basic math:
> > >>
> > >>300 rooms x $100 each x 3 cons = $90,000
> > >>
> > >>1000 attendees x $5 each for food x 3 cons = $15,000
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>patrickhavert <patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I think this is the lot next to the Subway.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No offense, but there is no way we're going to get 500
> > >>additional cars in that lot. This woman seems completely out of touch
> > >>with reality. This is besides the fact that it is $13 a day with no
> > >>in/out.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> They need to eliminate the Room minimum or else we should try
> > >>and move for this con. None of this crap was in the contract, and we
> > >>were told that the renovations were COMPLETED. This is such
ridiculous
> > >>BS we should call the Westin and Sheraton today, and then change the
con
> > >>location tomorrow.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Patrick
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
> > >>[mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net]On Behalf Of DB
> > >> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:45 PM
> > >> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] More parking info
> > >>
> > >> It's not too far. Here's a sat view google maps of that
> > >>parking lot.
> > >>
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/4usyhw
> > >>
> > >> On 4/28/08 3:20 PM, "Eric Burgess" <erburgess at gmail.com>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Does that $13.00 include in-and-out privileges? That
> > >>sounds farther than the Marriott and might be farther than the
Sheraton.
> > >>
> > >> I still think they need to nix the room requirement. The
> > >>bad buzz based on this solution has already had an effect and that is
> > >>their fault.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Eric M. Aldrich I
> > >><ealdrich at apple.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Parking at the hotel. Seems they'll have the lot on the
> > >>corner of Century and Vicksburg:
> > >>
> > >> >From Deborah Lusby:
> > >>
> > >> "parking will take about 14-16 months and our guest will
> > >>have
> > >> parking available at 6151 Century blvd which is located
> > >>750 foot east of
> > >> the hotel on the corner of Century and Vicksburg, which
> > >>is walking
> > >> distance. The self parking rate is at $13.00 or you may
> > >>select valet on
> > >> located at the hotel for $20.00 per day, valet is
> > >>limited. Once we
> > >> actually begin the construction we will send you a map
> > >>that shows the
> > >> location. As for the renovation of the meeting space, we
> > >>do not have
> > >> any dates set as yet, it going to happen just not sure
> > >>when, I will keep
> > >> you posted."
> > >>
> > >> Eric
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Eric M. Aldrich I
> > >> Apple Core Audio Engineering
> > >> Audio Codecs
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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