[Deptheads] More parking info
Mary Scott
myshanter at yahoo.com
Thu May 1 08:42:02 PDT 2008
Looking at the brochure and adding the numbers up, I see that someone there forgot to add in the third salon's width. The grand ballroom should be 100ftx110ft not 100ftx79ft. If the measurements for the salons are right...
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Russell <mikeinva8 at mac.com>
To: deptheads at strategicon.net
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:28:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Deptheads] More parking info
I am not 100% sure the Sheraton will work, after looking at the maps
and charts on the web site there are some real problems. First if you
look at the floor plan and the capacity charts you get one set of
square feet number but then you look at the Meeting brochure you get
different numbers and the ballroom is smaller, like Mike F said
before, there maps are off, I think WAY off. I agree we need to find
some place fast, but lets not jump to quick. Some of us really need
to check this place out first. I will be looking at a few place when
I get there, but that is not be till the 21st of this month. If we
can get the Hilton, I know that will work, we have had the cons there
before.
On May 1, 2008, at 2:51 AM, Eric M. Aldrich I wrote:
> Tim pretty much spelled out the strategy exactly. We are trying to
> talk to the Westin, as we only left since we had no choice. If I
> could get the Hilton, I'd take it, but the only thing we have for
> certain is the Sheraton.
>
> Again, with this in mind, department heads should seriously look at:
>
> http://www.sheratonlosangeles.com/meetings/index.html
>
> I mean it. This might be our only choice if we want to move NOW, and
> it needs to be studied as objectively as possible.
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:33:15PM -0700, Tim wrote:
>> Gamex '08 is kind of a done deal. I suggest we look at the bright
>> side
>> of this. If this had to happen, Gamex is the con to have it happen
>> to.
>> As Eric pointed out, this puts the Radisson in breach of contract.
>> Frankly I think we should be thankful. I don't think the Raddison is
>> viable simply from the standpoint of the rooms. I heard more
>> complaints
>> about the rooms than anything else. Forget the parking, forget the
>> layout...if the con attendees won't stay in the hotel, the rest
>> doesn't
>> matter. We were also screwed by the change of ownership, but the
>> current situation is our "Get out of Jail Free Card" with the
>> Radisson.
>> My opinion is we should make the best deal we can for Gamex and
>> plan on
>> moving Gateway '08.
>>
>> Lets investigate the other hotels...stay in the rooms, check the
>> dates
>> and layouts and decide which hotel works. Eric can pick people to
>> review them. We just need to be systematic and and get it done
>> then we
>> can decide.
>>
>> If you want my two sesterces, I say we should look very seriously
>> at the
>> Sheraton and the Hilton. I would recommend we don't approach the
>> Westin
>> again any time soon. We will look like beggars with our "hats in
>> our
>> hands". So for now that leaves the Sheraton and the Hilton. The
>> Sheraton has the dates free, the rooms are ok and I believe the
>> "frequent flyer miles" from the Westin work there. Those are two big
>> points in its favor.
>>
>> Anyway, like I said...those are my two sesterces.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> t.aldrich at comcast.net wrote:
>>> The Marriott is not an option. We have confirmation that all 3
>>> weekends
>>> are booked by long standing re-occuring events.
>>>
>>> Gateway 2007 is being considered in the move.
>>>
>>> Gamex 2007 is unrealistic to move in less than 4 weeks.
>>>
>>> Our options at this time are
>>> Sheraton Gateway [Not the best layout, but they have all dates free,
>>> including Gateway 2007.]
>>> Hilton [Pretty good layout. Dates haven't been checked yet.]
>>> Westin [Workable layout. Dates haven't been checked yet.]
>>>
>>> We highly recommend as many people as possible visit both these
>>> above
>>> locations asap and see the layout and potential difficulties for
>>> themselves. This goes double for department heads that are
>>> actually in the
>>> area.
>>>
>>> Radisson [Great layout, but you all know the problems by now.]
>>>
>>> We're considering all suggestions.
>>>
>>> Tanya
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: Mike Fryer <Michael.Fryer at magtek.com>
>>>
>>>> Moving for Gateway is not a realistic goal, we could do it, but
>>>> Hotels
>>>> will have space booked already. In the LAX area there are really
>>>> only
>>>> four hotels that we can go to; Radisson, Westin, Hilton, and the
>>>> Marriott. Radisson is out of course, the Westin would screw us
>>>> again
>>>> sooner or later, the Hilton was not very interested in having us,
>>>> that
>>>> leaves the Marriott as our next best hope. Outside of LAX, the few
>>>> hotels that would work are in very expensive areas. The Sheraton
>>>> Gateway
>>>> might also work, but we would have to look at the rooms, I think
>>>> there
>>>> are errors in their charts, the main ballroom may be much smaller
>>>> than
>>>> they indicate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Fryer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
>>>> [mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net] On Behalf Of Eric
>>>> Burgess
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:08 PM
>>>> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] More parking info
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That was unreal. I can't believe how shabbily they treat a regular
>>>> customer. I'd love to move this con but at the very least, Gateway
>>>> shouldn't be there.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Robert Lionheart <spinachcat at yahoo.com
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This is such ridiculous BS we should call the Westin and Sheraton
>>>>>
>>>> today, and then change the con location tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hell yeah!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday's treatment should be a wake up call for everyone.
>>>> All our
>>>> work goes to making the hotel an extra $100,000 and more. You
>>>> would
>>>> think that they could have a little respect for the people who
>>>> make this
>>>> money for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the conservative basic math:
>>>>
>>>> 300 rooms x $100 each x 3 cons = $90,000
>>>>
>>>> 1000 attendees x $5 each for food x 3 cons = $15,000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> patrickhavert <patrickhavert at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think this is the lot next to the Subway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No offense, but there is no way we're going to get 500
>>>> additional cars in that lot. This woman seems completely out of
>>>> touch
>>>> with reality. This is besides the fact that it is $13 a day with
>>>> no
>>>> in/out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They need to eliminate the Room minimum or else we should try
>>>> and move for this con. None of this crap was in the contract,
>>>> and we
>>>> were told that the renovations were COMPLETED. This is such
>>>> ridiculous
>>>> BS we should call the Westin and Sheraton today, and then change
>>>> the con
>>>> location tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Patrick
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
>>>> [mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net]On Behalf Of DB
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:45 PM
>>>> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] More parking info
>>>>
>>>> It's not too far. Here's a sat view google maps of that
>>>> parking lot.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/4usyhw
>>>>
>>>> On 4/28/08 3:20 PM, "Eric Burgess" <erburgess at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does that $13.00 include in-and-out privileges? That
>>>> sounds farther than the Marriott and might be farther than the
>>>> Sheraton.
>>>>
>>>> I still think they need to nix the room requirement. The
>>>> bad buzz based on this solution has already had an effect and
>>>> that is
>>>> their fault.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Eric M. Aldrich I
>>>> <ealdrich at apple.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Parking at the hotel. Seems they'll have the lot on the
>>>> corner of Century and Vicksburg:
>>>>
>>>> >From Deborah Lusby:
>>>>
>>>> "parking will take about 14-16 months and our guest will
>>>> have
>>>> parking available at 6151 Century blvd which is located
>>>> 750 foot east of
>>>> the hotel on the corner of Century and Vicksburg, which
>>>> is walking
>>>> distance. The self parking rate is at $13.00 or you may
>>>> select valet on
>>>> located at the hotel for $20.00 per day, valet is
>>>> limited. Once we
>>>> actually begin the construction we will send you a map
>>>> that shows the
>>>> location. As for the renovation of the meeting space, we
>>>> do not have
>>>> any dates set as yet, it going to happen just not sure
>>>> when, I will keep
>>>> you posted."
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Eric M. Aldrich I
>>>> Apple Core Audio Engineering
>>>> Audio Codecs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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