[Deptheads] Boardgames Query

Karl Kreder zeotter at gmail.com
Wed Oct 29 09:14:10 PDT 2008 

I have to say, we are not getting along.  Everyone talks like we should be
gettting along but I see a lot of bitterness and resentment in more than one
(not all) of the e-mails in this thread.

You always here about the guys who run cons and constantly fight with each
other (I won't name any con names) and wonder "How much better would it be
if they just stopped fighting each other?"

Everyone has personal issues going on outside the con and sometimes they
bleed over, it happens.  But we all love game conventions (why else would we
keep doing this), can't we not be like other cons that have fighting and
bickering staff and be honest with each other.

I want to see the whole con do well, I play baord games, but I also
role-play, play a few collectible card games, and enjoy miniutres (not the
painting) can't we find ways to help each other instead of being at each
others throats when a suggestion is made we don't agree with.

A couple of opinions as I see them.

   - Board games draws the most attendance for the con and needs the most
   space. They use all of it, not every hour of every day but they do use it
   and it is very difficult to know when or where open spaces will be at any
   given time.
   - People keep wanting the board game space for something else, they may
   not realize that is what they doing but it happens a lot.  People are
   contantly coming up with ideas that need to take away space from board
   games, that makes board game HQ a little paranoid about giving up the space.
   - The board gamers want more space, they want more open gaming, they want
   to set up displays (did you see the political games setup last con, he wants
   more space), they want more space for huge version of Settlers of Catan,
   Days of Wonder wants 500 sq ft if they every show up.
   - I am not an expert in everything, and working for this con doesn't make
   me one.  I don't know exactly what every other department needs I can only
   comment on what I have seen and what I know.
   - These opions do not make board games more important, I just wanted
   others to see my perspecitive on the con.

I am not offically with board games anymore directly, I just run a wargamers
boot camp so take my opinions with that in mind.

I just felt l like someone should say it like it is, we are getting worse at
getting along.  Sorry about being the harsh one but I call it like I see
it.






On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Tim <Tim at stugiii.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Is being an asshole a requirement for running boardgames or does it just
> come naturally to you?  Either way you excel at it.
>
> My goal is to make the convention as a whole better.  This departmental
> fiefdom bullshit needs to stop.  Each department SHOULD be working towards
> the goal of improving the con.  You need to be an advocate for your
> department, but you also need to remember YOU are your department are not
> the convention.  Anything that increases one department but hurts another
> isn't good for the con as a whole.  The idea is to get more people into the
> venue, which generates more revenue and allows a better venue, etc...
>
> I remember RSI...I liked the energy they had and think they would be a good
> addition to the con.  Putting them in open gaming (which is where I recall
> them being seems like a good idea).  If you disagree, ok...lets figure a
> place to put them.  You comments were uncalled for and not productive.  Is
> there some personal reason you don't want RSI at Orccon...And remember, open
> gaming is for all games... not just open *boardgaming*
>
> I am curious though...can you explain how you would need the same number of
> tables and amount of room if you had 6 events versus 30 between 9a - 11p?
>
> Tim
>
> Patrick Havert wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> We have the same number of people whether we have 30 or 6 events going fom
> 9am to 11pm.
>
> If you want them so bad, let's put them in the computer room, you can make
> room for them by just adjusting the hours the people working get to play,
> right?
>
> -Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tim Keennon <Tim at StuGIII.com>
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:02 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>
> Patrick,
>
> I realize that, but I think if we spread the events out...beginning earlier
> and ending later rather then concentrating during the peak ten to two time
> slots we will be able to get more out of our existing tables and make better
> use of the room we have available..
>
> Tim
>
> Patrick Havert wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> This is our biggest con of the year, Boadrgames overflowed big time last
> year, and if we can not have them at this con, but at another con, Then they
> become a special attraction for that con, and we get 4-5 extra tables.
>
> -Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tim <Tim at StuGIII.com>
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 10:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>
> Oh yeah...I remember who they are, I just never knew them by that name...
>
> Nice thing about them, by virtue of how they operate, you can generate an
> accurate list of how much interest they generate.  We should stick them in
> the corner in open gaming...I think they would be a good draw...
>
> Wait...someone said we don't have room for them?  Why is that?
>
> Tim
>
> Victor B wrote:
>
>  RSI
> Reality simulations, Inc.
> Electronic pbm games (duel 2, and forgotten realms: orcs vs dwarves are the
> that 2 games lee and sandy of RSI run at strategicons)
>
>
> V
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Tim <Tim at stugiii.com> <Tim at stugiii.com>
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 3:42:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>
> Forgive my ignorance...who is RSI?
>
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