[Deptheads] Strategicon feedback

Fri Sep 25 14:30:02 PDT 2009

Losing people is always an issue, but do the Westsiders add to the over all profit of the hotel?  Most get free badges (MY opinion, and can be disputed of course) and most do not stay at the hotel.  So, are we staying at LAX for people that don't add a profit margin?  Again, solely my opinion.

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From: Eric Burgess <erburgess at gmail.com>
To: deptheads at strategicon.net
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:07:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Strategicon feedback

At Gateway, I was initially checked into a room that stank of cigarette smoke. The fellow who very quickly came up to help move me to another room told me that they have problems with smokers that use the rooms and they can't go after them without evidence. However, I think their housekeeping staff should try to let them know when a room has obviously been compromised. Maybe they don't even notice it anymore...

That said, the exact same thing happened to me at Sheraton in St. Louis just over a week ago. There is only so much they can do. Hopefully, they have the rooms where they can move people.

That said, I would favor an increase in cost if it meant a better hotel. I heard plenty of grumbling and if the parking isn't WAY better at Orccon, I think we will lose some people. Even better would be moving to another facility even if it is somewhere else. I know we worry about losing the Westside folks that are local but we'd end up with locals from another space if we moved.

...ERB
www.boardgamebabylon.com 
www.strategicon.net

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Karl Kreder <zeotter at gmail.com> wrote:

I didn't have any problems with our room, no smells or AC problems.  I never have staying at the hotel.  
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>On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM, mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jesse Heinig is one of the LARP GMsand except for "skipping the convention in the future" I agree with all of his criticisms. "The convention was wonderful" is really nice to hear, I worked really hard to try to provide good space for the LARP games, but failed miserably due to the Hotel.Sorry Ryan. I had to buy a bottle Fabreeze to make our room livable. The AC in the pool rooms was weak if it was running at all. The AC in the penthouse was too strong, game ended up moving due to the cold. I ended up with two different small "dings" on my van that I didn't notice until getting home.
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>>If we do not have EXCELLENT space for the LARP games at ORCCON, we will should not plan on having any LARP games at any other cons. This is assuming we can convince them to come to Orccon at all.
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>>I think even a hefty raise of badge prices would be worth getting into another Hotel. Several people mentioned Ontario again at the last con. I checked again, and the most space I could find was about 25,000 sqft, about half of what we use.
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>>Has anyone heard any new on the bankruptcy? I can not find any new news about it.
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>>Mike Fryer
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>>On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Robyn Nixon <robynln at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/grandLodge/pFSInLosAngelesLocalConvention&page=2
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>>>>>>>  l, but the hotel was awful. If Strategicon continues to use the LAX Radisson, I would recommend skipping the convention in the future. I've been there several times for Strategicon and it keeps getting worse. Among other issues: 
>>>>>>>- For rooms booked a month in advance, the hotel had no rooms ready at check-in 
>>>>>>>- No parking at the hotel; forced to park several blocks away in airport parking because they ran out of money to finish their new parking structure and it has languished incomplete for over a year 
>>>>>>>- Several bathrooms broken for over a year 
>>>>>>>- A/C broken in most rooms 
>>>>>>>- Events bounced from room to room with promises about better rooms (always rescinded at the last minute) and promises to fix A/C in inferior rooms (always failed with the excuse "the maintenance man just went off shift") 
>>>>>>>- Bistro ran out of coffee & sandwiches 
>>>>>>>- Hotel gave validation stamps for the off-site parking required by their own failure to have parking available, then the parking off-site refused to accept the validation and forced people to pay there 
>>>>>>>- Broken elevators in the lobby 
>>>>>>>- Valets and front desk both couldn't give directions to the off-site parking lot 
>>>>>>>- "Non-smoking" rooms were clearly smoking rooms with some air freshener sprayed and a "no smoking" sign put on the night stand (played hell with my sinuses) 
>>>>>>>- Locks to bathroom doors IN ROOMS were broken!
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>>>>>>>Strategicon: Great. LAX Radisson: Trash.
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