[Deptheads] Strategicon feedback

Fri Sep 25 22:31:01 PDT 2009

Losing people based on location isn't really a high factor, in part  
because we don't really know.

Biggest factor preventing us from moving away from LAX is a hotel  
with enough convention space. [There are at least 4 hotels that can  
fit us space-wise near LAX. Trying to find even one elsewhere is a  
challenge we've been fighting since we had to leave the Westin. Why  
we haven't moved to one of the other 3 in the past has involved cost  
and date availability.]

Cost, and proximity to any airport are other factors. [Yes, we have  
patrons and staff that fly in. Also, some special guests require an  
airport, and if we have any chance of getting certain manufacturers  
in the airport is a factor.]

And don't even get this list started on layout issues.

Tanya

On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Gayle Charboneau wrote:

> Losing people is always an issue, but do the Westsiders add to the  
> over all profit of the hotel?  Most get free badges (MY opinion,  
> and can be disputed of course) and most do not stay at the hotel.   
> So, are we staying at LAX for people that don't add a profit  
> margin?  Again, solely my opinion.
>
>
> From: Eric Burgess <erburgess at gmail.com>
> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:07:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Strategicon feedback
>
> At Gateway, I was initially checked into a room that stank of  
> cigarette smoke. The fellow who very quickly came up to help move  
> me to another room told me that they have problems with smokers  
> that use the rooms and they can't go after them without evidence.  
> However, I think their housekeeping staff should try to let them  
> know when a room has obviously been compromised. Maybe they don't  
> even notice it anymore...
>
> That said, the exact same thing happened to me at Sheraton in St.  
> Louis just over a week ago. There is only so much they can do.  
> Hopefully, they have the rooms where they can move people.
>
> That said, I would favor an increase in cost if it meant a better  
> hotel. I heard plenty of grumbling and if the parking isn't WAY  
> better at Orccon, I think we will lose some people. Even better  
> would be moving to another facility even if it is somewhere else. I  
> know we worry about losing the Westside folks that are local but  
> we'd end up with locals from another space if we moved.
>
> ...ERB
> www.boardgamebabylon.com
> www..strategicon.net
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Karl Kreder <zeotter at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> I didn't have any problems with our room, no smells or AC  
> problems.  I never have staying at the hotel.
>
> I wonder what the real ratio of bad rooms are?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM, mike fryer  
> <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Jesse Heinig is one of the LARP GMs and except for "skipping the  
> convention in the future" I agree with all of his criticisms. "The  
> convention was wonderful" is really nice to hear, I worked really  
> hard to try to provide good space for the LARP games, but failed  
> miserably due to the Hotel. Sorry Ryan. I had to buy a bottle  
> Fabreeze to make our room livable. The AC in the pool rooms was  
> weak if it was running at all. The AC in the penthouse was too  
> strong, game ended up moving due to the cold. I ended up with two  
> different small "dings" on my van that I didn't notice until  
> getting home.
>
> If we do not have EXCELLENT space for the LARP games at ORCCON, we  
> will should not plan on having any LARP games at any other cons.  
> This is assuming we can convince them to come to Orccon at all.
>
> I think even a hefty raise of badge prices would be worth getting  
> into another Hotel. Several people mentioned Ontario again at the  
> last con. I checked again, and the most space I could find was  
> about 25,000 sqft, about half of what we use.
>
> Has anyone heard any new on the bankruptcy? I can not find any new  
> news about it.
>
> Mike Fryer
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Robyn Nixon <robynln at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/ 
> pathfinderSociety/grandLodge/pFSInLosAngelesLocalConvention&page=2
>
> Paizon pathfinder RPG board:
>
>
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>         Jesse Heinig <http://paizo.com/people/JesseHeinig> ,   Tue,  
> Sep 8, 2009, 02:29 AM <http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/ 
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> pFSInLosAngelesLocalConvention&page=2#72>
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>   l, but the hotel was awful. If Strategicon continues to use the  
> LAX Radisson, I would recommend skipping the convention in the  
> future. I've been there several times for Strategicon and it keeps  
> getting worse. Among other issues:
> - For rooms booked a month in advance, the hotel had no rooms ready  
> at check-in
> - No parking at the hotel; forced to park several blocks away in  
> airport parking because they ran out of money to finish their new  
> parking structure and it has languished incomplete for over a year
> - Several bathrooms broken for over a year
> - A/C broken in most rooms
> - Events bounced from room to room with promises about better rooms  
> (always rescinded at the last minute) and promises to fix A/C in  
> inferior rooms (always failed with the excuse "the maintenance man  
> just went off shift")
> - Bistro ran out of coffee & sandwiches
> - Hotel gave validation stamps for the off-site parking required by  
> their own failure to have parking available, then the parking off- 
> site refused to accept the validation and forced people to pay there
> - Broken elevators in the lobby
> - Valets and front desk both couldn't give directions to the off- 
> site parking lot
> - "Non-smoking" rooms were clearly smoking rooms with some air  
> freshener sprayed and a "no smoking" sign put on the night stand  
> (played hell with my sinuses)
> - Locks to bathroom doors IN ROOMS were broken!
>
> Strategicon: Great. LAX Radisson: Trash.
>
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