[Deptheads] Strategicon: Cheating feedback
Eric Burgess
erburgess at gmail.com
Wed Apr 20 18:30:39 PDT 2011
davidhu3 at gmail.com is his email address.
On Wednesday, April 20, 2011, Tim <Tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
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> I suggest that the GMs remind
> all player's to be transparent in their accounting.
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> On 4/20/2011 12:03 PM, Neil Figuracion wrote:
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> Hey folks,
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> I'm re-posting this message from Chris Johnson, who is one of the
> folks who has reported some instances of alleged cheating in our
> board game tournaments. I've also spoken with David Zevin who has
> said some similar things.
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> >From the reports, the most we can conclusively say is that he
> makes many mistakes and may be taking advantage of confusion and
> distraction at the table. While no one is sure enough to
> decisively say that David Hu is cheating, both reports are certain
> that he has made significant mistakes in his game accounting.
> There has also been some suspicion laid on his shuffling during
> the Mega Dominion tournament. As a player who lost to him in a
> round, I did watch him and ask that everything be played
> transparently, though I never considered that he might have been
> top-decking.
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> So here's a course of action and I present it here to allow for
> some feedback:
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> 1) I will contact David Hu and alert him to the suspicions that
> are being raised. He will be welcome to participate in our
> tournaments on a probationary status. I will make sure that he has
> the understanding that he must be completely transparent in his
> accounting during each transaction. Any further complaints of
> obscurity or possible error will lead to more drastic measures.
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> 2) All of the GMs will be alerted to David Hu's probationary
> status. Otherwise, there is no way to enforce this measure.
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> 3) Dominion tournaments and other deck-building tournaments may
> have an optional "shuffle and cut" rule to be employed at the
> behest of any players. This will be offered to players at each
> table and only through a complete "nay" vote will each round play
> without.
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> I still don't have David Hu's contact information.
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> Any other thoughts? Thanks for your time!
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> twenty-three-skidoo,
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> Neil Figuracion
> Fad23 <http://ideasthatglow.blogspot.com/>
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> Here's the repost:
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> Sorry, this will be short and sweet (for unpleasant
> values of sweet).
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> I've played a number of games with David, and observed him in a
> number
> more, and discussed his behavior in a bunch more with other
> people. In
> all cases, he aggressively splashes/grabs money and/or resources
> into
> and out of the supply, in such a manner as to make it difficult
> to
> track if he is properly doing the transaction.
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> In a number of cases, where it has been verifiable/calcuable, he
> has
> *not* done the transaction properly; either under-paying, or
> taking
> too much change. In a close game, filled with good players (of
> which
> David clearly is one), that is often enough of an edge to ensure
> victory.
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> In a couple of cases, I've set myself up as the banker, to
> address
> this issue, and watched him carefully. Rather than hand in his
> resources and receive any change in an orderly manner, he's then
> waited 'til I was "distracted", and then awkwardly
> reached/lunged
> across other players to do the same thing. He's been caught
> making
> "mistakes" in those circumstances too.
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> This behavior has been observed by a number of people, in pretty
> much
> every game he plays (and not only at Strategicon). In Dominion
> (the
> mega tournaments), people who play poker professionally have
> reported
> him dealing from the bottom of his deck, and purposely poorly
> shuffling, to keep his good cards clumped, etc.
>
> This guy clearly has a problem, and a quiet word to the wise is
> long
> overdue, and will hopefully put an end to this behavior.
>
> Whether or not he is actually actively cheating, he is giving
> every
> appearance that he is, and that needs to be addressed, even if,
> by
> some miracle, he isn't actually purposely cheating (and is just
> consistently making "mistakes" in his favor, in every game he
> plays).
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> If this behavior continues, I and others are going to have to
> start
> calling him out, and "warning" the people playing against him to
> be on
> the lookout. I would very much prefer not to have to do that.
> It's
> unpleasant for everyone involved, and should not be necessary.
>
> Thanks
>
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