[Deptheads] SoCal Smack Down is moving weekends

Thu Feb 23 15:03:32 PST 2012

To be honest, what I said earlier is true. I'm not saying no to Henry  
because of the convention, I'm saying no because I don't want any more  
retailers. I will be filling the Dealer Room with manufactors and distributors  of 
non-gaming products (looking for a cool shirt vender now). We have 6  
retailers now, that is enough for a convention.

As a convention booth, I have MANY independent reports of their staff  
talking down our conventions at their store, other stores, and gaming  
gatherings. I will not have the atmosphere of the Dealer's Room poisoned by  someone 
talking down our convention on our own turf after all the work I'm  putting 
in to build it up.

If Neoncon, Polycon, Kingdomcon, any of them talked down our convention  
they would get the same treatment (especially Polycon).

If they come to us and ask, it will be considered fairly with recent  
to-that-moment history taken into account.

John

In a message dated 2/23/2012 9:24:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
phantom.hopscotch at gmail.com writes:

Noted.  John?  Why not ask them for little postcard like flyers to toss  
onto the regular "other upcoming cons" table? Maybe allow one of their reps to 
 come man that booth?  Just a thought. :-)  

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Eric Burgess <_erburgess at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:erburgess at gmail.com) >  wrote:

Briefly, they jumped onto our weekend two years ago, were  cautioned it 
would be foolish, mostly tried to draw organizers from us with  little success, 
caused a lot of misery for some minis folks (board games  didn't notice - 
their efforts were lousy), inflated their attendance numbers  and now they 
are admitting defeat through this change. When they reached out  to Heather 
and Devi (the OCBG organizers and Strategicon staff at the time)  to organize 
their board games, I told them if they shifted weekends, we  could work with 
them and everyone would be happy and if they didn't, no one  wins. They 
didn't respond and Strategicon as a whole has been simply polite  about it as 
they struggled and we grew. As Aldrich said, taking the high  road has paid 
off. With the change, everyone wins - the community and both  cons.  

I'll admit to laughing pretty hard when I saw Shawn's e-mail but it  wasn't 
in front of anyone except the cat. Thankfully, she talks to almost no  one 
in the gaming community so my mocking reference to SoCal SmackedDown  will 
stay with her.

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Kryssie <_phantom.hopscotch at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:phantom.hopscotch at gmail.com) > wrote:

I guess I don't understand the gloating over them moving  their con dates?  
Were they trying to directly compete with Gateway?  I'm just trying to get 
a feel for what's going on... >_>  Sorry, I'm teh n00bsauce.  

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Tim <_Tim at stugiii.com_ 
(mailto:Tim at stugiii.com) > wrote:

Actually John, we may want to do  that... give me a couple of weeks before 
you do anything  

On 2/23/2012 8:42 AM, _Evil5757 at aol.com_ (mailto:Evil5757 at aol.com)  wrote:  

Them moving to after us is only going to hurt them more. On the  honest 
side, I would call them and offer them a Gateway Dealer Table,  but I am 
limiting our retailers to what we have now and going after  more manufactors.

John

In a message dated 2/23/2012 3:14:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
_tim at stugiii.com_ (mailto:tim at stugiii.com)  writes:

I agree about not being involved, but still it is hard  not to feel pretty 
good about this...

Tim

On Feb 22,  2012, at 23:19, "Eric M. Aldrich" _<ealdrich at mac.com>_ 
(mailto:ealdrich at mac.com)  wrote:

> And we  hit it on the nose! When he announced it, it was said by a few of 
us  -- "Two years, max."
> 
> Gotta love Henry -- he's  consistent.
> 
> As much as I want to gloat (and you can  only imagine how much that 
really is), we now need to patch things  up. We can work together to benefit both 
conventions. So any public  comments should be positive, if made at all 
(and I suggest people  not them. I suspect there's some crow about to be served 
in certain  circles, and we should not get involved).
> 
> As much  as it pained a few of us to take the high road, we must maintain 
it.  It's worked very well so far.
> 
> Eric
> 
>  On 22 Feb, 2012, at 21:54, Shawn Hendrix wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> From their Facebook "We read the surverys  an have made lots of changes 
for this year's convention, but the  most important is the new date...Sept. 
21-23. Please let us know  your thoughts. "
>> 
>> -- 
>> Shawn  Hendrix 
>> Strategicon Marketing 
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