[Deptheads] Shirt Art Backlash
Fred Upton
frupton at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 27 15:32:35 PST 2012
I've had good feedback on the art, including from gaming females. Definitely
think we should keep it.
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From: "deanatay at gmail.com" <deanatay at gmail.com>
To: "deptheads at strategicon.net" <deptheads at strategicon.net>
Cc: "deptheads at strategicon.net" <deptheads at strategicon.net>
Sent: Fri, January 27, 2012 2:59:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Shirt Art Backlash
If there's really a demand for gender balance, see
if we can get art of the Clue men. I could see the
Colonel in yellow armor, the Professor in a wizard's
gown, Green in cleric's robes (he's Reverend
Green in Europe!). There's room for everyone in
this hobby.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Kryssie <phantom.hopscotch at gmail.com> wrote:
Keep the artwork. I've already bought necessary pieces to *COSPLAY* the three
ladies depicted. People are going to complain about *something* at every
convention. Really, if they had *that big* of an issue with it, they could have
said something at Gateway when Ms. Scarlet was plastered all over the back of
the Con Book. It shouldn't be a surprise....
>
>Everyone I've showed the artwork too--including females--have all been drooling
>over it and think it's amazing. I also think we need to keep with it, but
>that's only because I've spent the last month or so working the theme into
>everything I'm doing with the costume contest and marketing and, obviously,
>cosplaying. Plus, I'd really hate to set the precedent of having complaints
>three weeks before a con and pulling the art/theme and have us floundering for
>other events that are (going to be) based on said theme.
>
>
>On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Victor B <fhoenix88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>You have done a great job with the art and you did a great job handling the
>negativity.
>>
>>Nomatter what you present as art someone will complain. They are only thinking
>>of themselves and their views not the art.
>>Board, video, card and mini games get haters all the time.
>>You can have a man and woman kissing. Someone will complain because it is
>>heterosexual. Someone will complain they are both white--why aren't one of them
>>asian, black or hispanic? Then someone would complain of the interracial
>>kissing. Someone will say why aren't there 2 women kissing. Then someone else
>>would say why aren't there 2 men kissing. Then someone else would complain
>>because of the same-sex kissing. Then someone would complain the same sex wasn't
>>interracial or because it was.
>>Then someone would complain that they were fit and attractive and we need
>>average looking people kissing. Then someone else would complain if one of them
>>was overweight saying we were perpetuating the gamer stereotype. Then their
>>ages.
>>Then someone complains there were no blacks, asian, or hispanics in the lord of
>>the rings. It never ends. Just because someone complains doesn't mean it is
>>valid.
>>
>>The art has been excellent and is great. The few people with complaints are more
>>likely to tweet or post their gripe than the 90% that think the art is
>>wonderful.
>>Keep up the good work.
>>
>>
>>V
>>
>>
>>From: Taralyn Frasqueri-Molina <theunsquare at hotmail.com>
>>To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 2:54 PM
>>Subject: [Deptheads] Shirt Art Backlash
>>
>>
>>Hello All -
>>
>>
>>There is some art are backlash from a couple of @Strategicon followers on
>>Twitter. Two followers believe the art is sexist. I have sent along what I
>>believe is a very diplomatic response (pasted below). I just wanted ya'll to
>>know what was brewing!
>>
>>
>>By the by, I did not voice my personal opinion which is, I don't find the
>>artwork sexist at all. I think it's edgy and gorgeous. Then again, I work at
>>Disney Animation where all our movies allegedly objectify and stereotype women
>>all the time :)
>>
>>
>>-TL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--------------------------------
>>
>>
>>Comment 1: How about a t-shirt design that doesn't reinforce and promote
>>objectification of women in gamer culture?
>>
>>
>>Comment 2: A little too sexist for my tastes. Maybe they could consider that not
>>all gamers are hetereo men next time.
>>
>>
>>TL's response:
>>
>>
>>First - thank you for your honest opinion! Your views are heard here and
>>welcomed! As are the views of others who dig or don't dig the different kinds of
>>artwork produced by the artists for at Strategicon.
>>
>>I (@StrategiconTL) am the Art Director for @Strateigcon and directly responsible
>>for obtaining the art for the events. And I am a woman.
>>
>>Our shirts from previous conventions have run the gamut of themes including
>>gender and genderless shirts. Artists are asked to create designs about gaming -
>>in all its edgy, wistful, horrible, colorful, silly, dark forms.
>>
>>My intent as Art Director is never to objectify, demoralize, diminish any
>>gender, race, age, religion, ability or political affiliation. My intent is to
>>let local artists interpret gaming themes and have them produce the best quality
>>work possible based on their vision - from being inspired by the works of Boris
>>Vallejo & Julie Bell, to Tim Burton, or from the well worn pages of a D&D
>>players manual.
>>
>>Please keep the conversation going. Discourse about such social issues is
>>important in the world of gaming and art!
>>
>>From: erburgess at gmail.com
>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:33:32 -0800
>>Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Rock Band + Movie times
>>To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>CC:
>>
>>
>>Indeed - and the Q&A session with Dirk Henn on Sunday - we expected that to be
>>in the theater, too. It's right before the Going Cardboard showing.
>>
>>
>>...ERB
>>www.boardgamebabylon.com
>>www.strategicon.net
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Tim <Tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>>
>>The movie is on the schedule... under seminars... not sure if Dance Central is
>>up yet
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 1/27/2012 11:41 AM, J0KERtm wrote:
>>>Event FRIDAY Rock Band Warm Up! 7 pm - Midnight SATURDAY Rock Band Jam Session
>>>TBD SUNDAY Breakfast w/ The Beatles 10 am - Noon Rock Band Jam Session TBD I
>>>need to know what times we are showing the Boardgame Film and the Dance Central
>>>tourney, that way I don't schedule these opposite of one another. Also, whom do
>>>I submit my selection of movies to for approval to show in the movie room (also
>>>the time the room will be available)? Thanks, - Nick Sent from my iPhone On
>>>Jan 26, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Tanya Aldrich <tparry at strategicon.net> wrote: Aside
>>>from the Navigation Board Sign locations, which include the escalator on each
>>>floor, the main signage locations are behind the Reg Desk and the central point
>>>walls in the board gaming room. Any suggestions for other signage focal spots
>>>are appreciated. 8.5x11 signs will likely be sharing one of the hotel provided
>>>stands. The first number is the current quantity made. I may be revising this.
>>>If you feel the quantity needs to change, let me know. This list does not
>>>include signs requested in the last few weeks. I will resend the list with those
>>>additions when I get them done. 3 11x17 Board Games HQ 5 8.5x11 Board Games
>>>[These go in the door slots around the room] 2 11x17 Game Library 1 11x17
>>>Collectible Cards and Minis HQ 1 8.5x11 Collectible Cards and Minis [This goes
>>>in the door slot for the room] 2 8.5x11 Collectible Cards and Minis Left Arrow 2
>>>8.5x11 Collectible Cards and Minis Right Arrow 1 11x17 Miniatures Events Sign
>>>In 2 8.5x11 Miniatures Left Arrow 2 8.5x11 Miniatures Right Arrow 3 11x17
>>>Miniatures Paint and Take with Hrs on 3rd Floor [1 goes behind Reg Desk] 2
>>>8.5x11 Miniatures Paint and Take with Hrs on 3rd Floor 2 11x17 Miniatures Paint
>>>and Take Left Arrow 2 11x17 Miniatures Paint and Take Right Arrow 1 11x17
>>>Miniatures Paint and Take [This is for the table sign] 2 8.5x11 Broadside Bash
>>>3rd Floor San Clemente 3 11x17 Broadside Bash 3rd Floor San Clemente [1 goes
>>>behind Reg Desk] 2 8.5x11 Warhammer Open Gaming 2 8.5x11 Warhammer Open Gaming
>>>Left Arrow 2 8.5x11 Warhammer Open Gaming Right Arrow 1 11x17 RPG and LARP HQ
>>>2nd Floor [Goes behind Reg Desk] 1 11x17 RPG and LARP HQ 2 8.5x11 RPG and LARP
>>>Left Arrow 2 8.5x11 RPG and LARP Right Arrow 3 8.5x11 RPGA HQ Room 210 1 11x17
>>>RPGA [Wall outside hallway] 2 8.5x11 RPGA Left Arrow 2 8.5x11 RPGA Right Arrow
>>>1 8.5x11 Computer and Video Games 2 8.5x11 Computer and Video Games Left Arrow 2
>>>8.5x11 Computer and Video Games Right Arrow 1 11x17 Computer and Video Games HQ
>>>2 11x17 Rock Band and Dance Central 2 8.5x11 Rock Band and Dance Central Left
>>>Arrow 2 8.5x11 Rock Band and Dance Central Right Arrow 1 11x17 Dealer Room Hrs
>>>[Goes behind reg desk] [Thinking of adding "through board gaming".] 3 8.5x11
>>>Dealer Room Hrs [These go in the door slots outside the room] 1 11x17 Dealer
>>>Room Hrs Left Arrow 1 11x17 Dealer Room Hrs Right Arrow 3 8.5x11 Dealer Room Hrs
>>>Left Arrow 3 8.5x11 Dealer Room Hrs Right Arrow 3 11x17 Dealer Room [Above
>>>doors] 5 11x17 Painting Contest Times 1 11x17 Feedback Forum Time and Location
>>>4 11x17 Feedback Forum Time and Location and Floor [ 2 in Boardgaming, 1 behind
>>>Reg Desk] 5 Flea Market Hrs [ 2 in Boardgaming, 1 behind Reg Desk] 1 11x17
>>>Guest of Honor 6 8.5x11 Navigation Board Guest Info Do we need this? 1 11x17
>>>Guided Tours Please keep in mind that we are trying not to have hand written
>>>signs. If you get your requests and any necessary images to me before the Monday
>>>before the con. I will put the sign together. These signs can be 8.5x11 or 11x17
>>>and color. If you find a need for a sign at the con and 8.5x11 black and white
>>>is ok, it should be doable. And I will gladly put the sign together, Keith
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