[Deptheads] The Saga Of The Three Con Names
mike fryer
darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com
Tue Apr 30 16:40:27 PDT 2013
John,
No body suggested banners for each con. The suggestion was to have all
three con names on the banner, just like the sample I made.
Mike
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:28 PM, evil5757 at aol.com <evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:
> So....we have 11 departments that we can make banners for, so buying 33
> banners so we have them say what convention we are at?
>
> Who wants to give up their room quarters to pay for the banners?
>
>
> *Connected by Motorola*
>
>
> Nekojin <nekojin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I'm in agreement with the idea that Strategicon should be the
> overarching name, since we already do so much marketing through that name.
> And I agree that trying to give each of the three conventions a unique
> identity separate from the other two (as opposed to giving *each*convention a theme) is a step in the wrong direction.
>
> There's nothing wrong with *Strategicon Convention Group presents Gamex,*or something along those lines.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Michael Russell <mikeinva8 at mac.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok just wanted to get my two cents in on this before the final word comes
>> down. I think that we need to have either Strategicon or the name of the
>> conventions on the banners for few reason. One, not only are people at the
>> hotel for the convention, but a lot of guest of the hotel walk through
>> wondering what is going on. With out Strategicon or the con names on the
>> banners there is NOTHING advertising who we are. When working the reg desk
>> many many times people have noted the name Strategicon or the con name when
>> asking what was going on. Second if someone is new to the cons, this
>> reaffirms they are in the right place, and with a move coming soon, I think
>> we need this more than ever.
>>
>> As for the names of the Cons (Orccon, Gamex, Gateway) they have been
>> those name for over 25-30 years(Yes me and Eric A. have been going to these
>> con for that long), and have worked well (by the way for those of you that
>> don't know this, Orccon stood for Orange county Convention) not the ugly
>> beast :) When ever I think of changing the names I think of companies
>> that did that and it was a disaster - Think Radio Shack trying to change to
>> "The Shack" how well did that work for them? And all three names are
>> something easy to remember, so when they get home and google it, right of
>> the bat, strategicon come up, and that is what we want.
>>
>> As for each Convention having a "Theme" not bad but like someone else
>> said have it very low key, like the program cover art of one con be board
>> games, another war games and another RPG. We do not want people saying "Oh
>> I don't go to Gamex because that is there RPG con", we might loose people
>> to something like that.
>>
>> So that is my two cents worth.
>> Mike Russell
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Tim <tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mike will get the decision by tomorrow morning...
>>
>>
>> On 4/30/2013 10:34 AM, Ryan McMullan wrote:
>>
>> In the interim before a bold leadership decision is made, I second just
>> listing department name so the posters aren't in limbo.
>>
>> Ryan
>> On Apr 30, 2013 9:32 AM, "evil5757 at aol.com" <evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone, the purpose of the banners is to let people know where they
>>> are. Drop everything but the department. They know we're strategicon and
>>> they know what convention it is! They're there!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Connected by Motorola*
>>>
>>>
>>> mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is that a problem and why should there be a difference? All three
>>> are game cons run by the same people at the same location, how different
>>> can they be? When have they ever been different and all own by the same
>>> person(s)?
>>>
>>> Mike Fryer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Tim Keennon <tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is the problem we have. There should be something different and
>>>> there isn't at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Not making the cons distinct entities is one of our issues.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Neil Figuracion <fadtwentythree at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll throw this question out:
>>>>
>>>> Other than time of year, what's different about each convention?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Eric Nyquist <thatericn at aol.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> Since we've been the convention ownership, there definitely has been a moderately strong shift towards using Strategicon as a blanket term, versus the individual names. Back in "ye olde days" the phrase "Strategicon presents" was more boilerplate than identification; more of the background ownership than the out-front name and face for the conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> My suggestion to harmonize the naming issue would be to do something like this on the flyers, con books, web, social media, etc.:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *ORCCON*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Strategicon's Winter Convention*
>>>>>
>>>>> *GAMEX*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Strategicon's Spring Convention*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *GATEWAY*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Strategicon's Summer Convention*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> ... or we might consider *"Strategicon's Winter Gaming Convention"* or even *"Strategicon's Winter Event"*
>>>>>
>>>>> Recognized names are kept, no babies are thrown out with bathwater, while each con's identity is better defined and clarified.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric N.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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