[Deptheads] The Saga Of The Three Con Names
Tim
tim at stugiii.com
Tue Apr 30 17:52:17 PDT 2013
Actually Orccon was founded by HMGS. I believe it was "Orccon", then
"Son of Orccon". It reverted back to "Orccon" after that. Orccon =
Orange County Convention which is where it was originally held.
Someone besides John has to give history lessons on occasion...
Tim
On 4/30/2013 4:18 PM, Victor B wrote:
> Thanks for all the input everyone.
> Orccon was first and was established in 1977. The other 2 followed.
> The original founder from 77 plus some of the other previous owners
> are vendors at our con, and/or support our con. I even met 2 previous
> owners at GAMA--one from the 80s and one from the 90s. They both
> talked fondly of the con and started sentences off with "back in 1995
> when I ran the con....". Neither has lived in cali for many years. We
> have a rich 36 year history. There are less than a handful of people,
> like Ryan, that have been with this con over 25 years and been a part
> of 70+ of it's conventions. This con will still be going when most all
> of us have moved on.
> I mentioned Orccon, Gamex and Gateway versus strategicon 3X a year
> (feb, may, sept) because I wanted everyone here to put in their
> 2-cents before we made a decision.
> I wanted everyone to hear what Ryan, Norm, Mike Russell, Mike Fryer,
> Eric N., Eric B., and Kryssie had to say as well as supervisors and
> others on this list. Your input is valuable.
> Thanks
> V
>
> *From:* Michael Russell <mikeinva8 at mac.com>
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:52 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] The Saga Of The Three Con Names
>
> Ok just wanted to get my two cents in on this before the final word
> comes down. I think that we need to have either Strategicon or the
> name of the conventions on the banners for few reason. One, not only
> are people at the hotel for the convention, but a lot of guest of the
> hotel walk through wondering what is going on. With out Strategicon
> or the con names on the banners there is NOTHING advertising who we
> are. When working the reg desk many many times people have noted the
> name Strategicon or the con name when asking what was going on.
> Second if someone is new to the cons, this reaffirms they are in the
> right place, and with a move coming soon, I think we need this more
> than ever.
>
> As for the names of the Cons (Orccon, Gamex, Gateway) they have been
> those name for over 25-30 years(Yes me and Eric A. have been going to
> these con for that long), and have worked well (by the way for those
> of you that don't know this, Orccon stood for Orange county
> Convention) not the ugly beast :) When ever I think of changing the
> names I think of companies that did that and it was a disaster - Think
> Radio Shack trying to change to "The Shack" how well did that work for
> them? And all three names are something easy to remember, so when
> they get home and google it, right of the bat, strategicon come up,
> and that is what we want.
>
> As for each Convention having a "Theme" not bad but like someone else
> said have it very low key, like the program cover art of one con be
> board games, another war games and another RPG. We do not want people
> saying "Oh I don't go to Gamex because that is there RPG con", we
> might loose people to something like that.
>
> So that is my two cents worth.
> Mike Russell
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Tim <tim at stugiii.com
> <mailto:tim at stugiii.com>> wrote:
>
>> Mike will get the decision by tomorrow morning...
>>
>>
>> On 4/30/2013 10:34 AM, Ryan McMullan wrote:
>>> In the interim before a bold leadership decision is made, I second
>>> just listing department name so the posters aren't in limbo.
>>> Ryan
>>> On Apr 30, 2013 9:32 AM, "evil5757 at aol.com
>>> <mailto:evil5757 at aol.com>" <evil5757 at aol.com
>>> <mailto:evil5757 at aol.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Everyone, the purpose of the banners is to let people know where
>>> they are. Drop everything but the department. They know we're
>>> strategicon and they know what convention it is! They're there!
>>>
>>>
>>> /Connected by Motorola/
>>>
>>>
>>> mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is that a problem and why should there be a difference? All
>>> three are game cons run by the same people at the same location,
>>> how different can they be? When have they ever been different
>>> and all own by the same person(s)?
>>>
>>> Mike Fryer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Tim Keennon <tim at stugiii.com
>>> <mailto:tim at stugiii.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is the problem we have. There should be something
>>> different and there isn't at the moment.
>>>
>>> Not making the cons distinct entities is one of our issues.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Neil Figuracion
>>> <fadtwentythree at gmail.com <mailto:fadtwentythree at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll throw this question out:
>>>>
>>>> Other than time of year, what's different about each
>>>> convention?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Eric Nyquist
>>>> <thatericn at aol.com <mailto:thatericn at aol.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> Since we've been the convention ownership, there definitely has been a moderately strong shift towards using Strategicon as a blanket term, versus the individual names. Back in "ye olde days" the phrase "Strategicon presents" was more boilerplate than identification; more of the background ownership than the out-front name and face for the conventions.
>>>>
>>>> My suggestion to harmonize the naming issue would be to do something like this on the flyers, con books, web, social media, etc.:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ORCCON*
>>>>
>>>> /Strategicon's Winter Convention/
>>>>
>>>> *GAMEX*
>>>>
>>>> /Strategicon's Spring Convention/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *GATEWAY*
>>>>
>>>> /Strategicon's Summer Convention/
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> ... or we might consider/"Strategicon's Winter Gaming Convention"/ or even/"Strategicon's Winter Event"/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Recognized names are kept, no babies are thrown out with bathwater, while each con's identity is better defined and clarified.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric N.
>>>>
>>>>
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