[Deptheads] Final numbers

Wed Feb 19 18:10:10 PST 2014

I can handle kid's track next President's Day.
On Feb 19, 2014 6:01 PM, "evil5757 at aol.com" <evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:

> If we have one it needs to be it's own department or the ball will be
> dropped. "Kid's Track" by definition must be ALL departments, with
> department supervisors suggesting events for the track to the "KT"
> supervisor so they can make a true KT schedule and handout for kids when
> they register.
>
> John
>
>
> *Connected by Motorola*
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>
> "Kryssie M." <phantom.hopscotch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The kids room is what I was suggesting as it's own department.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Victor B <fhoenix88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I echo what John said. I personally have explored several childcare
> options and talked to several other conventions about how they handle it. From
> co-op where all the parents take shifts watching all the kids to paid
> services. In most all these cases the convention is not offering any child
> care...it is either parents getting together or an outside service.
>
>
> Kids are not responsible adults (many adults aren't responsible
> adults).Hotel security on Sunday night was walking in a group of 3 room to
> room looking for a lost little kid. The brother of the kid was in security
> office lost. I talked to security and told them I could talk to the child
> and locate his parents. I sat down with him in the security office, relaxed
> him, and got the info of who his parents were and went and got his mom from
> boardgames. Then we found his little brother 10 minutes later. He had
> gotten booted out of video games at 10pm and started wandering. Video games
> is not a daycare center...but that said we need to have rules for parents
> getting little kids so they don't wander lost in the hotel after kicked out
> of video games while parents are thinking they are still there. Maybe
> require all kids under 12 to have parents fill out info sheet so they can
> be contacted if their kid is still there at 10pm. Call them to get the kid
> while he stays at HQ. Any problem parents cannot drop off kids there
> anymore. It could have been worse with kid getting nabbed and parents
> thinking the kid was in video games room because they did not read the
> hours and rules of the video games room. Video Games room is not
> babysitting service and too much gets put on them with little kids dropped
> into their laps..But even being right we have to make sure little kids at
> night get picked up by someone.
>
>
> No to con provided daycare...but we will look into a kid's room for sept
> and beyond (8-12 year olds only and under 8 if accompanied by parent) It is
> not babysitting...it is a room with scheduled events for kids as well as a
> library of kids games like jr. catan, apples to apples jr., pokemon
> boardgame, etc. and the kids are free to come and go. Any kid not playing
> well with other will be asked to leave. ALL kids that get dropped off into
> the room must go to the HQ of that room and check in. The first time they
> check in they fill out info sheet with their contact info (these are rules
> all cons use).The room is easy. Getting someone dedicated to running it is
> the hurdle. Kublacon has it at 8-12 with younger needing a parent with them
> while in room. Every night the room closes at 9 pm with the last hour
> being bedtime stories (8-9). They have a big sign that states "This is NOT
> a childcare center!"
>
>
> Strategicon MUST have a dedicated room for kids 8-12 (and under with
> guardian) plus more kids programming that incorporates events like paint n
> take, pokemon workshops, and charades. We will. We just moved so be patient
> on new stuff as we adjust old stuff to new surroundings.
>
>
> Twice in recent years we have had kids programming tracks....everyone has
> ideas of what they want done but no one wants to step up and be the person
> doing it. We don't need more ideas--we need people to get in the trenches
> and actually do it and those people can pick their own volunteers and
> organize it . The last 2 volunteers who were in charge of the kids years
> ago both left in tears because they had some parents drop off their kids
> like it was day care and were difficult to get ahold of, kids crying for
> parents and hungry, etc. ..and they had screaming kids then screaming
> parents when they had to leave a game early to get their kids who they
> should have gotten hours earlier. Think it is easy? Let me hand you 6 kids
> ages 3-8 that are not related and have you keep them occupied, entertained
> and behaved inside a room for 4 hours. That is why most all cons (including
> kublacon) went to 8 as minimum age to be unaccompanied by parent. You
> cannot just give kids snacks or drinks because you do not know their
> dietary restrictions or allergies. Kids are a handful. So are grandkids but
> I got to hand her back to her mom and laugh saying that this is how she was
> as a kid.
>
>
> Free babysitting service is not an option. Too much liability. Outside
> service or attendees get together and work out something amongst
> themselves. Remember also--we are 3 times a year not once. We don't have a
> year to plan or organize nor do we do things once. It is a blessing and a
> curse....sorta like vampirism.
>
>
> V
>
>
>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:44 PM, "evil5757 at aol.com" <
> evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:
>  This has already been explored and the services that fit our needs are
> all reservation and prepaid services. It can be looked at again but we
> would be responsible for any money under their minimum.
>
>
> *Connected by Motorola*
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>
> Jim Sandoval <plustentoawesome at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Too bad there isn't an Ikea near by. But how about asking around at other
> events to see how they handle it. There might be ideas out there we havn't
> thought of or resources we are unaware of. Liability and overhead are a
> huge concern, but I would like to konw how events like KublaCon go about
> providing such a service.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Nekojin <nekojin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Speaking unofficially - having an actual child care department is just
> opening a HUGE can of liability without much upside. It's almost all
> positive for the parents; all negative for the convention.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Tim Keennon <tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>
> I suspect it is more about increasing our focus in that area.  We don't
> need anymore overhead though.
>
> Tim
>
> *From:* deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net [mailto:
> deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net] *On Behalf Of *Kryssie M.
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:09 PM
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Cc:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Final numbers
>
> Theoretically, we could make it a separate department...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Melinda Keller <melinda_keller at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> So,  the reason I go to KublaCon over StrategiCon is that they have a
> place to store my kid.  I think if you really want to close that gap, you
> need to handle the young ones.
> On Feb 19, 2014 12:30 AM, "Eric M. Aldrich I" <ealdrich at mac.com> wrote:
>
> Official Orccon 2014 attendance: 1820. Up 120 from last year. Our largest
> show ever, by, er, 120 :-)
>
> So yes, it was as crowded as we thought and seemed. Sunday was easily our
> best Sunday ever by the numbers.
>
> And we have some obvious stuff to fix -- much more so than usual, and it
> should help us grow even more. But for this week let's be happy with a job
> well done.
>
> Tentative meeting is March 23. Yes, that's early. Our goal is to
> dramatically close the Kublacon gap. More to follow. It's not an all hands
> meeting. More on it later.
>
> Eric
>
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