[Deptheads] Gamex 2015 Event Paperwork :)
Strategicon Department Heads
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Tue Jun 2 22:52:57 PDT 2015
Thanks, both of you.
Another nice to have would be able to list RPG winners for the first time in years.
Tanya
On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Strategicon Department Heads wrote:
> Message From: Mark Hyman mkhyman at gmail.com
> A fair summary. Nice to have but not needed.
>
> Where it can be very helpful is that the cons have increased attendance every con, year over year. This last con, Gamex is typically our smallest of the year and yet was larger than ANY con last year!
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> If this continues (knock on wood) we're going to need to be significantly more creative and assertive in our time/space management for events. Having a good history and understanding the trends of these events can only help us when we have more significant space management issues.
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> Thanks,
> Mark.
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> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
> Message From: Jim Sandoval plustentoawesome at gmail.com
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> The SJG people run my HQ. I shouldn't have too much of an issue. I also have copies of the sign in sheets somewhere, if they were turned in and survived. After that point it's just finding out who the winner is. It just seems to me that there is a lot of "it would be nice to have it if we need it" and not a lot of we use it for X Y and Z. But if you want it, I will do my best to provide it.
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> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
> Message From: Tanya Aldrich taldrich at strategicon.net
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> It has always been our aim to have the data should we need it.
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> We need it for payouts, yes.
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> It is certainly useful for organizing space when events are all different lengths. Boardgames and collectibles probably have more use for that data.
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> It is good to know, who signed up for an event vs who showed up to play. This could be useful for all departments using our prereg system. And if we have all departments, we might be able to figure out what might have kept someone from showing up. If we find a pattern, it might be worth coordinating the scheduling of certain events, especially if it likely caused a DNR.
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> Knowing which events didn't run, and why.
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> If someone should ask for any details for a good reason, we can dig it up.
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> If we should want to see any patterns in gamers across departments we would need all departments data. And, while we may not be using all of it now, if we decide we want it later and don't have it, in most cases, we won't be able to get it.
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> Tanya
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> P.S. If you have issues with SJG, check with Shane. SJG sometimes runs events in boardgames and he might be able to help.
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> On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Strategicon Department Heads wrote:
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>> Message From: Jim Sandoval plustentoawesome at gmail.com
>> I will contact the SJG people to see what I can dig up. The question I have is, other than being able to name winners on the site and the book, what do we gain from these metrics? I mean the space made available to our individual departments is fairly static and I have never used that information to create any form of plan. I was working under the assumption that these metrics were tracked simply because they had payouts and that affects our bottom line for the purposes of taxation and proper accounting. Perhaps if we understood what we use these numbers for in a practical sense it may work as an incentive to have the department heads produce them more reliably.
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>> Jim Sandoval
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>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>> Message From: Mark Hyman mkhyman at gmail.com
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>> Good question.
>>
>> IMO, if SJGames or other sponsor will provide us with some basic info, that's roughly what I care about. How many participants, how long, and who are any winners. The Participants & hours help us plan space/times and the winners can make it into the conbook.
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>> Other opinions?
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>> Mark.
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>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>> Message From: Jim Sandoval plustentoawesome at gmail.com
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>> Those events are sponsored by Steve Jackson Games which provides prize support through their own MIB volunteer program. I keep no record of those since we provide nothing other than event space for them. It was my understanding that the follow up paperwork was for events that we provide prize support for. I can try to get in contact with the Steve Jackson Games people to get that information, but we are generally uninvolved with that tournament procedure. Perhaps what would be best is that I have them not enter these events as sponsored and keep the ASPIRE tournament as sponsored since we actually sponsor it =)
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>> Jim
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>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>> Message From: Tanya Aldrich taldrich at strategicon.net
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>> That would be the GURPS Final. Yep. Got that one.
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>> You also had 14 sponsored events, all GURPS it appears. Sponsored events usually imply prizes to winners, so they get weighted like Tournaments, unless I hear otherwise. Also, some of those events state tournament in the title.
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>> Every event is supposed to submit a sign-up and attendance sheet or DNR, and Payouts has agreed to hold them for me during the con.
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>> I guess it comes down to two things, we want as much data as possible about each event, and if the event has winners we want to recognize them.
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>> Tanya
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>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Strategicon Department Heads wrote:
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>>> Message From: Jim Sandoval plustentoawesome at gmail.com
>>> Not sure I understand. I have only one tournament and I personally delivered the payout sheet and I reviewed it for badge numbers and names. Is there anything I missed?
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>>> On Jun 1, 2015 11:14 PM, "Strategicon Department Heads" <deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>> Message From: Tanya Aldrich taldrich at strategicon.net
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the paperwork being turned in. And thank you to the Payouts Crew for processing and sorting it.
>>>
>>> It's been a while since I was this early looking at the winners data. The winners list should be ready by the end of the week.
>>>
>>> First, a note from Payouts, white, pastel or high contrast colors for the paper please. Dark green doesn't work, the yellow was fine, the orange was ok, and red can work if all other viable colors are taken. Yes, for those who know their color temperatures, deep cool colors, very hard to read, deep warm colors can work.
>>>
>>> The # events is what is listed on the website.
>>> Tournaments below include Sponsored and Special, unless they are labeled Demos or 101 in the title, or are known not to be a tournament by me. Demos include 101s.
>>> The numbers below reflect the data received from Payouts when they shut down. Plus emails. And any paperwork I found in the payouts folders. If you turned it in to payouts and don't think it's listed, I'll look again. Otherwise, who did you give it to?
>>> # Events is all types of events, Tournaments to Demos.
>>> The data is comma delimited, so you can copy it into a file for CSV into a spreadsheet, I hope.
>>>
>>> Department, # Events, Missing Tourn, Events, Demos, # Missing, % Missing
>>> Traditional Card,3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0%
>>> Boardgames, 399, 0, 5, 6, 11, 3%
>>> Collectibles, 92, 2, 2, 0, 4, 4%
>>> Computer, 10, 1, 0, 0, 1, 10%
>>> Miniatures, 70, 7, 3, 1, 11, 16%
>>> War Games, 19, 0, 3, 0, 3, 16%
>>> LARPs, 8, 0, 2, 0, 2, 25%
>>> General, 13, 1, 10, 0, 11, 84%
>>> Non-RPG Total, 611, 11, 25, 7, 44, 7%
>>>
>>> Other RPGs, 110, 14, 95, 0, 109, 99%
>>> Pathfinder, 77, 0, 77, 0, 77, 100%
>>> Advent League, 42, 0, 42, 0, 42, 100%
>>> Totals w/ RPGs,840, 25, 239, 7, 271, 32%
>>>
>>> We're down to 7% missing data, with the RPG department not accounted for. :)
>>>
>>> I would like to see the Missing Tournament column be all zeros for Gateway 2015.
>>>
>>> Remember, I need paperwork stating any DNRs and a reason why. All events listed on the website should be accounted for. Only exceptions are opening and closing hours, and certain general events and seminars (which were not included in the numbers above).
>>>
>>> We also still need more focus on sheets being complete. How I see it...
>>> 1. All game events should list winners or why there are none. Co-op game is a common reason, but i don't know what games are co-ops, so label, and co-op teams says to me, a team won, so I need to know who. Also, not enough players for payouts, does not mean to me not enough players for placing.
>>> 2. Who actually showed up that signed up.
>>> 3. Badge numbers, if I don't see badge numbers then I assume the GM didn't check for badges.
>>> 4. Label DNRs and non-winning events, so I know the paperwork is complete.
>>>
>>> General Events: Someone needs to take responsibility for generating and making sure paperwork is filled out. These include Improvs, Seminars, and Movies. We just need attendance badge numbers and names, or DNRs.
>>>
>>> Miniatures: Please start using a format more consistent with Boardgames and Collectibles. We can work on getting your extra info in the format. Need the DNR check box and a column for checking off who actually played.
>>>
>>> Other RPGs: I'm hoping you have the paperwork, please hold onto it and get to me at Gateway at the latest.
>>>
>>> Pathfinder and Adventurers League: I just need who played when, names and badge numbers, or DNRs. I didn't expect any info at the con, but soon would be nice.
>>>
>>> Wargames: You had an event that was titled Tournament, but designated a Demo, that doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Collectibles: Similar to Wargames, Demos listed as Events, Tournaments listed as Events. When I see weirdness like this I assume the title is correct.
>>>
>>> Great work everyone!!!
>>>
>>> Tanya
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