[Deptheads] Event Group, Type, and Host clarifications

Fri Aug 28 22:47:41 PDT 2020

ING is a host department, which may have any number of different game
types. The search function needs to be useful to the attendees, and we need
to think of it from that angle. People tend to search by game type. It's
probably not a bad idea to have a Prototype secondary game type, and it may
help attendees find the games they're looking for or get more information
about the games they're looking at, but they won't all end up in ING. Lots
of LARPs are Indy and new games, and many are untested, but ING is very
much its own thing and it has particular affordances; it is a space to
accommodate and showcase a very particular kind of game designer in a
particular state of production, and can accommodate some kinds of games but
not others. To help people find ING games, it is more useful to list them
by game type--card game, board game, etc--to help people find the games
they want to play. Having a secondary Prototypes game type isn't a bad
idea, but we should always make sure to list the primary type correctly,
because it's there to give attendees the best possible information when
they search. Under this scheme, people searching for, say,  "board games"
are *more* likely to find ING, which is good for the ING department. I hope
that's a helpful distinction.

Tara

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:25 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:

> Message From: John Paiva  evil5757 at aol.com
> Yeah! The definition of a department/group has been broken down to the
> point where I DID have a department!!
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net>
> Date: 8/28/20 9:50 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Event Group, Type, and Host clarifications
>
> Mike,
>
> I said, "Sub-groups and non-game-type groups”. Indie Games are definitely
> a non-game-type group, based on our definition of game types, as are Play
> To Win, and, well, Family Games. Family Games has potentially all event
> types, so obviously we have departments that aren’t sub-groups.
>
> I would consider Pathfinder Society and Adventurers’ League as sub-groups
> primarily of RPGs; but they can be sub-groups of any event type depending
> on the game being run.
>
> I guess we could just call them all non-game-type groups since they all
> can potentially be associated with more than one type. Nowhere on the
> website am I aware of us using either term. They are host types.
>
> Tanya
>
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <
> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>
> Message From: Mike James  minis.tyrant at gmail.com
> Indie Games are a department. We had this discussion right before last
> con. They are not a sub group or a mixture of something else. Other than
> that, it all looks good.
>
> Mike
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 6:09 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>
>> Message From: Jim Sandoval  plustentoawesome at gmail.com
>>
>> That sounds great! You guys are rocking it!
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 4:43 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Message From: Tara Leederman  taleederman at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds great, and the categories make total sense to me. Should make it
>>> easier for people to cross-index and find stuff they're looking for from
>>> different departments all at the same time. Good for cross-pollination.
>>>
>>> Tara
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 3:38 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
>>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Message From: Tanya Aldrich  taldrich at strategicon.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> As our group gets more complex, things have gotten a little muddy on
>>>> the website, which is run by what I’m loosely terming, the system.
>>>>
>>>> First, departments are defined in the system as *groups*.
>>>> Most departments have a definitive leadership, a few, like General,
>>>> fall to Mike (Event Manager) and Eric (Con Manager).
>>>>
>>>> All departments recognized by the system so far are capable of being
>>>> *hosts*.
>>>> Obviously, Marketing is a department, but so far, I haven’t heard a
>>>> need for it to be a host, and for one offs, it would default to general.
>>>>
>>>> Not all departments are *event types*.
>>>> It just so happens that for years our departments/groups in the system
>>>> correlated to Game/Event Types. And, at the time there was no reason to
>>>> worry about the sub-groups being their own type, such as Pathfinder Society.
>>>>
>>>> But now the system is switching over to differentiating between *event
>>>> types* and *hosts*. Sub-groups and non-game-type groups will only be
>>>> hosts at Orccon 2021. The search function is now recognizing the
>>>> difference. For now, a recognized department will be either an event type
>>>> or a host type in the search. If we get a lot of requests for searching on
>>>> event types as hosts, I’ll add it.
>>>>
>>>> To this end, these groups will only be searchable as hosts.
>>>> Adventurers League
>>>> Pathfinder Society
>>>> Indie New Games
>>>> Play To Win
>>>> Family Area
>>>>
>>>> These groups should have an *event type* as the *primary type*. For
>>>> Gateway 2020, these groups can remain as *secondary types*, if you
>>>> wish, but as long your group is the host, it will say “Hosted by …” in the
>>>> event list and you will remain controller of the event for editing and
>>>> sign-ups.
>>>>
>>>> As we continue to separate *event types* and *hosts,* the secondary
>>>> type will no longer allow these host only types. By that point, GMs will
>>>> have the option to select one of these as a host. Everyone with admin
>>>> access should already have this ability and more.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps clear some things up.
>>>>
>>>> Now to migrate the new search code to the sign-up page that everyone
>>>> has been clamoring for for ages.
>>>>
>>>> Tanya
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