<div><div>We can't make a con wide rule on this. Not only are the work requirements different between departments, there are GMs who care and really put effort into their events.</div><div><br/></div><div>We need to let the Department Heads determine who gets what based on ALL the factors, not just hard numbers. A "loose base" is fine, but give the DH latitude to make final determination.</div><div><br/></div><div>John</div><div><br/></div><div><font style="color:#333333"><i>Connected by Motorola</i></font></div></div><br><br>Tanya Aldrich <taldrich@punk.net> wrote:<br><br>If we make a con-wide ruling, it needs to make sense for all departments. 12 hrs may not work for some (LARPs), which is why I think 48 player hours allows for more flexibility (LARPs from my understanding would have a lot less trouble with that). How many games across the con have less than 4 players normally?<div><br></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:09 AM, mike fryer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><p dir="ltr">You need to be able to go into the con knowing you have your hours set up, not having to hope a game lasts for a certain amount of time.</p><p dir="ltr">Volunteers have alway gotten full credit for a game that did not run as long as they were there to run it.</p><p dir="ltr">12 hours would be ok, but the addition requirements only apply to board gaming. I think department heads could require extra things, like a 101.</p><p dir="ltr">When I ran Catan qualifiers, I spent the entire time keeping an eye on the games. I didn' t play other games. I think it is odd that we allow people running a game to play in other games. Playing in the game they are running is fine, if there is room.</p><p dir="ltr">But, this is a board gaming issue mostly, I don't think any other department has this issue.</p><p dir="ltr">12 hours for a badge would be con wide. Any additional details should be worked work between Shane and Tim, IMHO. </p><p dir="ltr">Mike Fryer</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 8, 2014 9:25 AM, "Tim" <<a href="mailto:tim@stugiii.com">tim@stugiii.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Why not make it real “clock” hours?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Deptheads [mailto:<a href="mailto:deptheads-bounces@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads-bounces@strategicon.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tanya Aldrich<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 07, 2014 10:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>; Shane Sauby<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Deptheads] GM Badge Requirements<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Are hours credited based on scheduled hours or actual hours an event takes? I assume this means the event also has to run, regardless of method.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Where you thinking a GM had to accomplish all 4 tasks? I think that's asking a bit much. First, you determine if an event becomes a tournament. I never asked for Alhambra to be one, it just was. Second, not everyone probably feels comfortable doing 101s. If you were thinking of all 4 tasks, then I suggest making it 16 hrs and the other 3 tasks give you double hours (see my across two days suggestion below). But I think 16 hrs might be pushing it.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">I think upping to at least 12 hrs of games is fine. Twelve hours barely gets a board game GM to the same number of player hours as an RPG GM, assuming a 4 player game, and few board games require the constant participation of the GM. After all, nothing says that if your players don't need you in constant attendance that you can't play a game while GMing a board game, as long as you are accessible.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As for the other suggestions, I would at least suggest stating ...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">8 hrs if that includes one tournament.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">8 hrs plus a 101.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">12 hrs across two different days, provided one is a day you have trouble filling, and they get a 2 hrs for 1 real hr up to 4 real hrs max. That way someone can't run a little 1 hr game on a hard to fill day and expect it to fill the extra 4 hrs needed.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Or as mentioned earlier, 12 hrs, but tournaments, 101s, and games on hard to fill days count 2 to 1 in hours.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My two cents.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tanya<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Shane Sauby wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Good afternoon everyone,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> I was considering changes to the general rule of qualifying for a GM badge. At the moment, it is running 8 hours of games. This is not a lot of work for what they get in return. I ran 12 hours of games (4 Power Grid World Tour events) and it took about forty minutes of my time all together.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"> I have thought about several changes I would like to make and was wondering how much leeway I had and what others thought of my ideas. I have listed them below, but would be interested to hear any ideas you may have.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Run at least 12 hours of games<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Run at least one tournament of any size<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Run at least one gaming 101<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Run games on at least two different days<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Shane Sauby<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Boardgames Supervisor<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Deptheads mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br><a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads" target="_blank">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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