<html><head><base href="x-msg://2625/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm with Shane on this one. Although the idea of 12 scheduled, 8 actual or you don't get the free ride guaranteed next time might be a good compromise. Also, consider, people worrying about getting the actual hours are more likely to pad the event data, which is an added problem we don't need.<div><br></div><div>Another angle to look at would be a page from RPGs. 12 scheduled hrs, minimum 48 player hrs. You run a large tournament and your ass is likely covered. Isn't the main point to make sure the GMs are entertaining (so to speak) enough people to earn a badge.</div><div><br></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Tim wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Not at all… if they don’t perform their time at a con, they don’t get a badge next time.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Deptheads [mailto:deptheads-bounces@strategicon.net]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Shane Sauby<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 08, 2014 10:22 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Deptheads] GM Badge Requirements<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Making it real "clock" hours would require me to not give badges, add up all the hours after con was done, determine those GMs who had earned enough hours, and then deal with a ton of paperwork reimbursing all the GMs who earned a badge and telling those GMs that did not earn enough hours they don't get a reimbursement. Unlike RPGs, which can dictate how long their events run, boardgames is kind ofa crap shoot. I can estimate pretty well most of the time, but every once in a while either a GM puts in a lot of extra time or less time than scheduled. I figure its a wash over the course of an entire con.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Shane Sauby<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Boardgames Supervisor<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">On Monday, September 8, 2014 9:25 AM, Tim <<a href="mailto:tim@stugiii.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">tim@stugiii.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id="yiv5986382154"><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Why not make it real “clock” hours?</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yiv5986382154yqt16740"><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Deptheads [<a href="mailto:deptheads-bounces@strategicon.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:deptheads-bounces@strategicon.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tanya Aldrich<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, September 07, 2014 10:21 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>; Shane Sauby<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Deptheads] GM Badge Requirements</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Are hours credited based on scheduled hours or actual hours an event takes? I assume this means the event also has to run, regardless of method.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Where you thinking a GM had to accomplish all 4 tasks? I think that's asking a bit much. First, you determine if an event becomes a tournament. I never asked for Alhambra to be one, it just was. Second, not everyone probably feels comfortable doing 101s. If you were thinking of all 4 tasks, then I suggest making it 16 hrs and the other 3 tasks give you double hours (see my across two days suggestion below). But I think 16 hrs might be pushing it.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">I think upping to at least 12 hrs of games is fine. Twelve hours barely gets a board game GM to the same number of player hours as an RPG GM, assuming a 4 player game, and few board games require the constant participation of the GM. After all, nothing says that if your players don't need you in constant attendance that you can't play a game while GMing a board game, as long as you are accessible.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">As for the other suggestions, I would at least suggest stating ...<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">8 hrs if that includes one tournament.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">8 hrs plus a 101.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">12 hrs across two different days, provided one is a day you have trouble filling, and they get a 2 hrs for 1 real hr up to 4 real hrs max. That way someone can't run a little 1 hr game on a hard to fill day and expect it to fill the extra 4 hrs needed.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Or as mentioned earlier, 12 hrs, but tournaments, 101s, and games on hard to fill days count 2 to 1 in hours.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div id="yiv5986382154yqt08410"><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">My two cents.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Tanya<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div id="yiv5986382154yqt42590"><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Shane Sauby wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Good afternoon everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> I was considering changes to the general rule of qualifying for a GM badge. At the moment, it is running 8 hours of games. This is not a lot of work for what they get in return. I ran 12 hours of games (4 Power Grid World Tour events) and it took about forty minutes of my time all together.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> I have thought about several changes I would like to make and was wondering how much leeway I had and what others thought of my ideas. I have listed them below, but would be interested to hear any ideas you may have.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Run at least 12 hours of games<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Run at least one tournament of any size<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Run at least one gaming 101<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Run games on at least two different days<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Shane Sauby<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Boardgames Supervisor<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; 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