<p dir="ltr">Please keep in mind that each RPG (including LARPs) requires many hours of investment before the con to author new scenarios. I agree that leaving each dept to customize (with transparency) is the way to go. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Ryan </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 8, 2014 2:36 PM, "Victor B" <<a href="mailto:fhoenix88@yahoo.com">fhoenix88@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span>Gm badges</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>The exact text from our website----</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Volunteers who have worked for at least 8 hours and performed their assigned duties to the satisfaction of their department supervisors, will receive a reimbursement for the cost of their convention badge.</span></div><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div></span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--Supervisors approve events
and approve the hours for their gms to earn a badge. If you look at what a GM submits to run for 8 hours and feel they should do more then notify them and work it out before con.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--The rules should not change for the entire con because one dept. feels their GMs are not doing enough. No need to create problems where there are none. In the end a supervisor is the one that approves of badges for his or her dept. This is a main function of the supervisor. Every dept. is different.</span></div><span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div></span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--The hours are overall guidelines for supervisors and give potential volunteers a ballpark. They know the "minimum" they will be required is 8 hours of approved events. The key here is "approved".</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>For Strategicon and at other cons this year where I ran boardgaming (like Boston game fest for 1000 gamers) or ran the entire game room (500 person or less con with all gaming in one room) here is what I use:</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--If I ask someone to come run an event they get full credit for the scheduled run time. Top games I need to make sure are run.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--If someone asks me to come run an event that is current and popular I badge them based on playing time hours listed on boardgame geek plus 30 minutes to an hour. Remember that some GMs will pad their hours...when approving an event you approve of the listed hours as well. Check them and if questionable ask the GM why.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--In most other cases I will accept "GM wants to run this game or event but it is a long shot if anyone shows up to it" events but that GM is responsible for their own badge and if they run 8 hours of attended events they are reimbursed for their badge. I did this because there are people coast to
coast that will schedule to run events knowing they will have no one show up to play it. They do it to get the free badge. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><span>--hours are tricky. A game ending early does not take away hours. A game running twice as long doesn't give more hours. Otherwise you could have a GM say they are dropping their sunday game because their Saturday event took twice as long and they have enough hours without running their next event. If we took away hours for games ending early this would happen and we would have chaos and lots of extra book
keeping. As it is now approve of the hours for events and note the ones that do not run. </span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><span><br></span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>All gming is not equal-----</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--The base for gming is setting up the game or tourney, starting it, and being around to answer any rules questions.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--Teaching a game is 1.5X the base hour. It is more work and effort, You are locked to that table start to finish of the event and talking the entire time and teaching. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>--Moderating a game is 1.5X the base hour. It is more work and effort. You are locked at the table start to finish running a scenario, challenging the players, storytelling, keeping the game going, etc.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Playing in a game of 'settlers of catan' that
you are gming is not the same as moderating 'are you a werewolf' or running a dominion mega tourney, or running a game where you paint provide all the miniatures for all participants and teach and moderate, or preparing and running a role playing game and moderating it, or setting up and running a larp where you coordinated the npcs, decorated and set up 2 rooms, and moderated the entire time. Therefore each game is approved separately. Even within a dept. the games are not all the same. You have 8 player games vs 3 player games, 30 minute games vs 6 hour games, per player per hour per amount of time you had to spend at the game moderating (or were you able to simply play in it which makes a difference). </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>This is why I repeat--supervisors are responsible for the approval of badges in their dept. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>The supervisor approves the event, the hours, the time slot, the day, and when looking at a specific Gm if they earned enough credit for a badge or if you want them to do more.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>The 8 hours is a universal minimum that each supervisor can raise for their area. Quality and quantity control is done by the supervisor. 10 people all wanting to run battlestar galactica for 8 hours each person on Friday and Monday only won't be approved for all of them.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Btw...everyone is not comfortable teaching or cannot do it....therefore it should not be required.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Some people are bad gms. Look into complaints about gms, make sure they are valid, and take action accordingly.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>We want this to continue be the best con so we surrounded ourselves with top notch supervisors--you guys. </span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>You supervisors make your depts. click. You in turn surround yourself with good volunteers and
gms that you approve, coordinate, manage, and supervise.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>You can make minor changes for gms for the area you supervise. Just do so with caution and be prepared for reaction to your action since it will effect your best gms as well as the cheesers.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>V</span></div> <div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div><div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 10:20 PM, Tanya Aldrich <<a href="mailto:taldrich@punk.net">taldrich@punk.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div>Are hours credited based on scheduled hours or actual hours an event takes? I assume this means the
event also has to run, regardless of method.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Where you thinking a GM had to accomplish all 4 tasks? I think that's asking a bit much. First, you determine if an event becomes a tournament. I never asked for Alhambra to be one, it just was. Second, not everyone probably feels comfortable doing 101s. If you were thinking of all 4 tasks, then I suggest making it 16 hrs and the other 3 tasks give you double hours (see my across two days suggestion below). But I think 16 hrs might be pushing it.</div><div><br clear="none"></div>I think upping to at least 12 hrs of games is fine. Twelve hours barely gets a board game GM to the same number of player hours as an RPG GM, assuming a 4 player game, and few board games require the constant participation of the GM. After all, nothing says that if your players don't need you in
constant attendance that you can't play a game while GMing a board game, as long as you are accessible.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>As for the other suggestions, I would at least suggest stating ...</div><div>8 hrs if that includes one tournament.</div><div>8 hrs plus a 101.</div><div>12 hrs across two different days, provided one is a day you have trouble filling, and they get a 2 hrs for 1 real hr up to 4 real hrs max. That way someone can't run a little 1 hr game on a hard to fill day and expect it to fill the extra 4 hrs needed.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Or as mentioned earlier, 12 hrs, but tournaments, 101s, and games on hard to fill days count 2 to 1 in hours.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div>My two cents.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Sep 3, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Shane Sauby wrote:</div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div>Good afternoon everyone,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> I was considering changes to the general rule of qualifying for a GM badge. At the moment, it is running 8 hours of games. This is not a lot of work for what they get in return. I ran 12 hours of games (4 Power Grid World Tour events) and it took about forty minutes of my time all together.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> I have thought about several changes I would like to make and was wondering how much leeway I had and what others thought of my ideas. I have listed them below, but would be interested to hear any ideas you may have.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Run at least 12 hours of games<br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Run at least one tournament of any size</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Run at least one gaming 101</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Run games on at least two different days</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Shane Sauby</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">Boardgames Supervisor<br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br clear="none"></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Deptheads mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Deptheads mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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