<html><head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"> </head><body dir="auto"><p dir="ltr">And Mickey beat me to it :D.</p> <p dir="ltr">PFS is interested!</p> <p dir="ltr">The PFS team is planning on doing something similar to what AL does with players voting for best GM which is more of a riff off GM evaluation (we're attempting them this con). I would love to work with the other groups on something more public. Even if it is just an official announcement of our top GM.</p> <p dir="ltr">Alternatively, it may be better to have GMs throw their hats into the ring and sign up to be a part of this. That way, there is no pressure on GMs who just want to have fun.</p> <p dir="ltr">I think the easiest would be a simple sign up for GMs prior to the convention. Then have voting by players during the convention and announcements at the following convention. To vote for a GM you will have to have played a game with that GM at the convention.</p> <p dir="ltr">Just throwing this out there, </p> <p dir="ltr">~Jon</p> <p dir="ltr">Sent from <a href="http://www.bluemail.me/r">BlueMail</a><br><br></p> <div class="gmail_quote" >On Jul 18, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <pre class="blue">Message From: Mickey Tan mickeyt66@hotmail.com<br></pre> <div>Can we have a best judge award for the year for the AL? Every player fills out feedback forms to rate and give suggestion to judges at each game. We have the statistics to determine this. <br> <br> <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">____</span> <div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Mickey Tan</span></div> </div> <div><br> On Jul 18, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><span>Message From: Mike James <a href="mailto:minis.tyrant@gmail.com">minis.tyrant@gmail.com</a></span><br> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div></div> <div>Is there a reason why you feel the need to point this out in this particular way instead of offering actual ideas when someone (a couple people, actually) came forward looking for suggestions?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Mike</div> <div><br> On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><span>Message From: John Paiva <a href="mailto:evil5757@aol.com">evil5757@aol.com</a></span><br> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div>How about Annual Awards that is more than just Boardgames?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I have tried to get a multi-departmental award(s) going for the last 9 years with nothing but resistance, is it time to try it now?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>John</div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div id="composer_signature"> <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div> </div> <br> <br> -------- Original message --------<br> From: Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> <br> Date: 07/15/2016 1:24 PM (GMT-08:00) <br> To: <a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net">deptheads@strategicon.net</a> <br> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Annual Awards <br> <br> It sounds promising, and finally finding a use for the recorded event time besides scheduling is cool. Just don’t categorize by or at least exclusively by scheduled length; I see scheduling abuse otherwise. And, we might need a minimum number of players for the event to qualify for the award, at least 4, maybe 6. <div class=""><br class=""> </div> <div class="">For next year, since I don’t think or I know we don’t have the data, here are a couple more ideas. These could include other departments too. And Shane, I’m not looking to lump all this on your plate. :) I’m expanding on your idea of easier to define categories including ones that can span departments to include more of the con. I know we have been trying to get other departments in on the annual awards, it’s just harder to define. Eric and I will work out con-wide awards, provided the participating departments get the data.</div> <div class=""><br class=""> </div> <div class="">Two player only games (Lost Cities) or scheduled to be a duel format. Not events where only two players attend. This can be expanded to include War Games, Collectibles and Miniatures. Boardgames like Lost Cities would be counted in the two player con wide and the boardgame time group.</div> <div class=""><br class=""> </div> <div class="">Since Co-op games are getting so popular, and provided the GMs make the paperwork clear enough on who actually played in the event or each game, we could do a co-op award for those with the most co-op wins. In this case, there doesn’t even have to be one set of winners per event; multiple Pandemic games can be run, and all groups that win get recorded. I’ll even do the data on this since I don’t expect payouts to enter all those numbers. :) And again, this might be expandable to other departments, like maybe Party Games; I understand some of them are co-op. What about some RPGs? Couldn’t Miniatures have events where it’s everyone vs an NPC? And I can think of at least one Collectibles game that looked co-op to me. :)</div> <div class=""><br class=""> </div> <div class="">One more point to ponder. We have been getting more structured and getting more complete data on “Events" than we used to and now that demos and playtests have their own type I think we should consider “Events” for the awards? Co-ops are events because we aren’t paying everyone for beating the game, but for the annual awards, it would be one person getting the award and it’s a bragging title. And co-op games can be quite challenging.</div> <div class=""><br class=""> </div> <div class="">Tanya</div> <div class=""><br class=""> <div> <blockquote type="cite" class=""> <div class="">On Jul 15, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" class="">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class="">Message From: Shane Sauby <a href="mailto:ssshanucon@yahoo.com" class="">ssshanucon@yahoo.com</a><br class=""> <div class=""> <div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" class=""> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" class="">Hi everyone,</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" class=""><br class=""> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""> So, I have been wracking my brain for a way to categorize games that allows people to have annual goals but at the same time doesn't drive me crazy. The original categories were poorly defined (I think they were Strategy and Board?) So I created thirteen game categories that were defined by the game mechanics. This proved way to unwieldy, so I cut it down to seven. Even that was too much, especially given how many games these days use multiple game mechanics. It was also pointed out to me that the categories were pretty uneven, with some having a handful of events and others having dozens.</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""> I have come upon an idea that would be easier to administer and hopefully allow us to continue giving annual awards. What if the categories ignored the games themselves and focused on the times? Shorter games appeal to different players than medium length games, and some players prefer to sit down and play a game for 6 or 7 hours instead of playing three different games. If I created three categories based on the typical event length, the categories could be simply determined by sorting in an excel spreadsheet. This would also prevent players from "gaming the system" by finding those games that fall into a particular category, but are not very competitive. Players who prefer shorter, lighter games would compete against other players who like those types of games. Euro game players, where most of the medium length games will likely end up, would be in competition with other Euro players. And the TI3E and Titan players would have their own category for those who come to con to play their favorite two games =)</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""> Thoughts?</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""> Ideas?</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""> Help?</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class="">Shane Sauby</div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1468607313354_17533" dir="ltr" class="">Boardgames Supervisor</div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________<br class=""> Deptheads mailing list<br class=""> <a href="mailto:Deptheads@strategicon.net" class="">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br class=""> <a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a><br class=""> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br class=""> </div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br> <span>Deptheads mailing list</span><br> <span><a href="mailto:Deptheads@strategicon.net">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a></span><br> <span><a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a></span><br> </div> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"> <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br> <span>Deptheads mailing list</span><br> <span><a href="mailto:Deptheads@strategicon.net">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a></span><br> <span><a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a></span><br> </div> </blockquote> <pre class="blue"><hr><br>Deptheads mailing list<br>Deptheads@strategicon.net<br><a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>