<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Jason and Jason.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve mentioned in the past that I’m not much of a Javascript programmer. I kinda feel my handling of the description toggle is kludgy. Anyone willing to try a cleaner method, I’m all for it. Based on the error message I saw, it’s likely because of this unusual implementation that IE doesn’t handle it. It’s certainly not a priority, but when and if I feel like writing it differently, I might end up fixing it for IE inadvertently.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Given I have Firefox, and they are 6%, I’m willing to debug. Anyone in a percent below 5% are mostly out of luck.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In order to do an Windows upgrade like that, I’d have to first know about it, then get Eric to install it on my Virtual Machine. And upgrading isn’t what I’d want to do, I’d need a separate install, because 24% of our Windows users are using Windows 7. Eric and I are planning to get Windows 10, hopefully soon. The 4% not using Windows 10 will remain out of luck. Luckily, most of our Windows 7 users have switched to Chrome. Even Firefox has got to be better than IE at this point.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m looking forward to someday soon having over 90% using a webkit browser. It should eliminate 99% of the cross browser differences, but if Microsoft can find a way to be a pain, I’m sure they will. And I have no idea if Android may mess with things.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, if anyone getting this email is using an Android device and Chrome and having issues viewing our site, you are likely going to have to work with me, in order to find the problem, or get me a test device. :)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">IE and Edge users might get bug fixes by the end of summer, but no promises.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tanya</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" class="">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Message From: Jason DuVall <a href="mailto:nekojin@gmail.com" class="">nekojin@gmail.com</a><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">IE is not worth supporting at all. As you said, Microsoft stopped supporting it 6 years ago, leaving it an unsafe and buggy mess. It doesn't even follow Microsoft's own standards for web implementation. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For similar reasons, Android Webview is not worth supporting - it was effectively (if not officially) EOL'ed, and Google has not supported it or had it included in new devices for months. For phones where they're able to, it was actively removed, and people were "forced" to use Chrome instead. It functionally no longer exists as anything but a "legacy" program. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(And as a side note, why didn't you upgrade your Win7 PC to Win10 when Microsoft offered it for free?!?) </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" class="">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Message From: Tanya Aldrich <a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank" class="">taldrich@strategicon.net</a><br class=""> Hi All,<br class=""> <br class=""> So, I decided to go review our site, now that we have 9 months of data, covering 2 cons, I figure it’s a decent sample. Keep in mind, I’m looking at this stuff from a developer mindset, not a marketing one. Here’s what I found.<br class=""> <br class=""> Browsers<br class=""> Over 80% of our users are using a webkit browser.<br class=""> 53% Chrome [25% Windows, 16% Android, 7% Mac, 3% iOS]<br class=""> 28% Safari [24% iOS, 4% Mac]<br class=""> <br class=""> Of the other less than 20%<br class=""> 6% Firefox [4% Windows, 1% Mac]<br class=""> 3% Edge - Windows<br class=""> 2% IE - Windows<br class=""> 2% Samsung Internet - Android<br class=""> 2% Android Webview<br class=""> <br class=""> I have easy access to Chrome, Safari, and Firefox. For browser issues, that’s 87% of our users.<br class=""> I can, in theory, fix OS related browser issues for 32% of our users with my access to Apple devices.<br class=""> I can, in theory, attempt to fix OS related browser issues of 31% of our Windows users, but my windows is by no means new, Windows 7.<br class=""> For the 2% IE users, it hasn’t been updated in 6 years. I’m only going to be checking version 11, and If it’s not easily repeatable and not easily fixable, it’s not getting fixed.<br class=""> <br class=""> Anyone using an OS other than Mac, iOS or Windows or a browser other that Chrome, Safari, Firefox, or (groan) IE, you are going to have to help me help you.<br class=""> <br class=""> Tanya<br class=""> _______________________________________________<br class=""> Deptheads mailing list<br class=""> <a href="mailto:Deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank" class="">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br class=""> <a href="https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads</a><br class=""> </blockquote></div><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">"Would you like another drink, sir?" asked the bartender.<br class="">"I think not," replied Descartes, and promptly vanished.</div> _______________________________________________<br class="">Deptheads mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Deptheads@strategicon.net" class="">Deptheads@strategicon.net</a><br class="">https://strategicon.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/deptheads<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>