<div dir="ltr">If you'll forgive and indulge me, I would like to reframe this a bit. I don't think it's likely or even desirable that every department submits a layout/text/pictures for their department page. Department heads are volunteers and they are not webmasters; this is neither their area of specialization nor responsibility, and asking them all to do their own page will be both ineffective and result in wildly varying quality and tone across the website. The website is an avatar for the convention's brand, and its pages should therefore be carefully considered in terms of visual literacy and professional tone. <div><br></div><div>As such, I think it would be best if a person were designated to work with the department heads to write some content for these pages and find appropriate pictures. I can do this and work with Rob on the coding end to make sure it gets done, if you would like, as I am not willing to submit this idea without volunteering to do it myself. I can reach out to department heads and add content they want added to their pages, such as instructional videos, demos, and links. If anyone desperately does want to write the material for their own page and select pictures, they can of course do so; I can just take a look at it and edit for tone and stuff if necessary. That will keep the quality constant and hopefully frictionless across the site. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Tara</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:00 PM Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Message From: Tanya Aldrich <a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank">taldrich@strategicon.net</a><br> <div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">We would like more than just a paragraph, several is more what we’re looking for.<div>Finding or pointing us to a few pictures would be good.</div><div>I’m not concerned so much with the layout. That I can do.</div><div><br></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 3, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline">Message From: Angelica Magno </span><a href="mailto:angelicamagno.ing@gmail.com" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">angelicamagno.ing@gmail.com</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline">Do you need just the paragraph or do you want the whole page layout with pictures as well?</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:10 AM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir="ltr"><span>Message From: Tanya Aldrich <a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank">taldrich@strategicon.net</a></span><br>Hi All,<div><br></div><div>Now that I’ve cleaned up the menus on the dev site, it is so much easier to change things. I have made some of the changes, but not all. These are changes Eric approved. Please review at</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://dev.strategicon.net/" target="_blank">http://dev.strategicon.net</a></div><div><br></div><div>I’m still trying to figure out a better name for “Other Info”, and any other suggestions.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with Eric on the Departments menu. I’m more supportive of the idea, but we need at least a page contribution from each department. Check out RPGs for an example of what you can provide. Let’s just say, we’ve been entertaining this idea for about a decade and note how far we’ve gotten.</div><div><br></div><div>If you’ve sent me a department description that hasn’t made it to the departments page, please resend or at least let me know to go look for it.</div><div><br></div><div>We’re missing (in rough order of existence at the con)</div><div>War Games</div><div>Open Gaming</div><div>Party Games</div><div>Games On Demand (needs to be added to RPGs)</div><div>Family Area</div><div>Play To Win</div><div>Indie New Games </div><div><br></div><div>It also wouldn’t hurt to have a bit more info on Pathfinder Society and Adventurers’ League, if they are willing to provide.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the help so far.</div><div><br></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 2, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Message From: Eric Aldrich <a href="mailto:ealdrich@mac.com" target="_blank">ealdrich@mac.com</a><br><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">So I'm good with this except a "Departments" Menu -- it only works if *every* department submits AND MAINTAINS their page. Call me a skeptic/apostate/heretic if you will but that's one of those things that seeing is believing -- otherwise I'm not buying it. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade ... just call it the voice of experience.<div><br></div><div>That said, if every department can get something usable and acceptable to Tanya and myself I'll consider it. Consider this a challenge -- convince me.<br><div><br></div><div>Eric<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 1, 2020, at 2:29 AM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Message From: Tanya Aldrich <a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank">taldrich@strategicon.net</a><br><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div dir="auto">Jon,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m liking the idea of our top three items as prominent buttons at the top of the home page. Not so sure about the whole site.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for being the first to give me a new menu organization. Changed the top names a little, and * the items I moved. The one thing I noticed is you’re not utilizing the 8 menus.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’d like to try for 8 menus with a more even distribution of items. If I could get the Painting Contest, Winners, Photo Albums, maybe Downloads, possibly Special Events in another menu(s). Add Special Guests and Merchandise. And a better name than Other Info or The Rest. :)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I just can’t fathom what the menus should be. The first two menus might work.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please, folks, keep brainstorming. :)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Our Convention<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>About (should be About Strategicon, and content really needs work)<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Registration Info<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Convention Registration<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Code of Conduct<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>New to Gaming<br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>*Contact Us</div></div><div dir="auto">Location (Becomes the Virtual menu, for Virtual Cons)<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Hotel<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Parking<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Food & Stuff<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Local Game Stores<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Local Attractions<br></div><div dir="auto">Events </div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Event Schedule<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Events Needs GM<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Request a Game<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Run an Event<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Special Events<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Event Pre-Reg<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Painting Contest</div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Winners<br></div><div dir="auto">Shopping <br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Dealer Room<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Flea Market<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Auction<br></div><div dir="auto">Departments<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Volunteer<br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>*Game Library</div></div><div dir="auto">The Rest</div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>*Photo Albums</div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>*Downloads</div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>*Supporting Game Groups<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>*Sponsors<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Links & Mailing Lists<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Advertising<br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Media Guidelines<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Tanya</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 31, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Message From: Jon Merriex <a href="mailto:jmerriex@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jmerriex@yahoo.com</a><br><div style="zoom:1"><div dir="auto">Hey all,<br><br></div><div dir="auto">One big thing we could do is remove Homepage and ensure the Strategicon Logo always links back to the homepage. Most users assume this functionality anyway.<br><br></div><div dir="auto">Also, I'd suggest we be clear about our 1, 2, 3s. What is it we think are the top 3 things we want the player to do. Then ensure that is always in the F zone prominently.<br><br></div><div dir="auto">For instance, if our 1, 2, 3s are Buy a badge, get a hotel, and register for games, then we should ensure those are things that can be easily accessed on any page. Maybe adding 3 CTAs under the navbar for Buy a Badge, Get a Room, and Play a Game. This relieves stress from the menu to do everything. It also gives players a clear understanding of the thing(s) we want them to do on the website.<br><br></div><div dir="auto">Lastly, I'd like to suggest a re-organizion of the menu to below:<br><br></div><div dir="auto">The Convention<br></div><div dir="auto">About (should be About Strategicon, and content really needs work)<br></div><div dir="auto">Registration Info<br></div><div dir="auto">Convention Registration<br></div><div dir="auto">Code of Conduct<br></div><div dir="auto">New to Gaming<br></div><div dir="auto">The Stay<br></div><div dir="auto">Hotel<br></div><div dir="auto">Parking<br></div><div dir="auto">Food & Stuff<br></div><div dir="auto">Local Game Stores<br></div><div dir="auto">Local Attractions<br></div><div dir="auto">Photo Albums<br></div><div dir="auto">Downloads<br></div><div dir="auto">The Events<span> </span><br></div><div dir="auto">Event Schedule<br></div><div dir="auto">Events Needs GM<br></div><div dir="auto">Request a Game<br></div><div dir="auto">Run an Event<br></div><div dir="auto">Special Events<br></div><div dir="auto">Event Pre-Reg<br></div><div dir="auto">Game Library<br></div><div dir="auto">Painting Contest<br></div><div dir="auto">Winners<br></div><div dir="auto">The Shopping<span> </span><br></div><div dir="auto">Dealer Room<br></div><div dir="auto">Flea Market<br></div><div dir="auto">Auction<br></div><div dir="auto">The Departments<br></div><div dir="auto">Volunteer<br></div><div dir="auto">Supporting Game Groups<br></div><div dir="auto">Sponsors<br></div><div dir="auto">The Rest<br></div><div dir="auto">Links & Mailing Lists<br></div><div dir="auto">Advertising<br></div><div dir="auto">Media Guidelines<br></div><div dir="auto">Contact Us<br><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks,<br><br></div><div dir="auto">~Jon<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On May 31, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><pre>Message From: Tanya Aldrich <a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank">taldrich@strategicon.net</a><br></pre>Which parts? We can’t do all of it.<div><br></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 31, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Message From: Nick Chavez <a href="mailto:J0KERtm@yahoo.com" target="_blank">J0KERtm@yahoo.com</a><br><div dir="auto">I like this new Menu layout you are planning as well.<div><br></div><div> - Nick<br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On May 31, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Message From: Tanya Aldrich <a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank">taldrich@strategicon.net</a></span><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div>I agree, but to get the Departments on top, we have to remove a current menu, which at this point requires us either getting rid of “Home”, convincing Eric of one of my ideas, or coming up with another way to free up a menu.<div><br></div><div>I don’t see Virtual menu not happening if we have a Virtual con, as long as I get info to point it to. Technically, I got something, but not enough to warrant a top level menu.</div><div>The virtual info might have to be under another menu if we aren’t 100% virtual.</div><div><br></div><div>Hence the call for reorganizing ideas and comments. Aside from the “Home” debate, nothing is going away, more things are being added, and we need logical places to put everything. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Tanya</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 31, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Message From: Tara Leederman <a href="mailto:taleederman@gmail.com" target="_blank">taleederman@gmail.com</a><br><div dir="ltr">I like the idea of Departments being its own menu featured prominently, with each department having its own page with a hyperlink back to Run Event. If there's some way you can give us the ability to build our pages, that would be awesome, but I understand if it's not possible. <div><br></div><div>A virtual menu is awesome; we need information pages about the various software and websites people might use, with links, as well as a common spot for how-do docs etc. and links to our Twitch and YouTube and Facebook groups.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Tara</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:53 PM Strategicon Department Heads <<a href="mailto:deptheads@strategicon.net" target="_blank">deptheads@strategicon.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Message From: Tanya Aldrich <span> </span><a href="mailto:taldrich@strategicon.net" target="_blank">taldrich@strategicon.net</a><br>Hi All,<br><br>With all the talk of adding pages, that I rarely have an issue with, we really should discuss where to list most of these pages in the menu. I’m putting a call out for ideas on how to improve/reorg the menu and opinions of what I’m listing below.<span> </span><br><br>8 all access main menu items is about the limit right now. Ninth would be Account/Admin. I’ll consider 10 only for a separate Account and Admin menu to be discussed later.<br><br>Shopping, and Admin are pretty set as a main menus. And I’d like to hold off on discussing cleaning up the Admin menu for later session. I’d like to focus on what the general user and logged in general user gets to see.<br><br>* Do we need the “Homepage” menu item? If so, I’m shrinking it to “Home”.<br><br>* I think we need a separate item under Shopping for Strategicon Merchandise. This will make the t-shirt art a lot easier to find. Something I keep hearing about, but never really heard a solution. Only single con or evergreen items need to be purchasable through our online registration page.<br><br>* I’m thinking of changing Admin back to Account and adding the account links found under the username (they can stay their too, at least for now. Then the Admin items for those admins would be added to the bottom of the account menu. Part of making things like badges easier to find. It will make it a long menu for Admins, but we will discuss the Admin menu in general later.<br><br>* For Virtual Only Cons, Hotel and Parking menus will go away. Replaced by at least one virtual only menu. For things like the guides for all things virtual.<br><br><br>I also have two radical ideas that Eric A. may not like, but I think opinions are still good.<br><br>1. Change Registration Menu, submenus Hotel Registration, Convention Registration, Event Pre-Registration<br>* Hotel Registration would be the Hotel link, removing it from the top menu<br>* Convention Registration would be the Info page with a button at the top of the page to get to the current Convention Registration page for those who don’t need the info.<br>* Event Pre-Registration, moved from the Events menu. Would the name be better as Event Early Registration. This can be changed to Event Sign-ups, for a pure virtual con.<br>* Code of Conduct can stay.<br><br>2. Will only be considered if #1 doesn’t fly. I think Parking could go under Hotel.<br><br>Either idea frees up a main menu, in particular a menu that has no use during a virtual con. This could be a way to move Departments to the main menu. Just remember, we need more content and one or more images, preferably photos for each department to have a solid presence. I’m willing to edit and format, but I don’t know enough about most departments to write stuff.<br><br><br>Here is the current all access menu setup.<span> </span><br><br>Homepage<br>Registration<br> Registration Info<br> Convention Registration<br> Code of Conduct<br>Events<br> Event Schedule<br> Events Needs GM<br> Request a Game<br> Run an Event<br> Special Events<br> Event Pre-Reg<br> Game Library<br> Painting Contest<br> Winners<br>Shopping<br> Dealer Room<br> Flea Market<br> Auction<br>Hotel<br>Parking<br>Other Info<br> Other Info (only visible on vertical menus, not sure we need)<br> Photo Albums<br> Downloads<br> New to Gaming<br> Food & Stuff<br> Local Game Stores<br> Local Attractions<br> Links & Mailing Lists<br> Advertising<br> Media Guidelines<br>About<br> About (should be About Strategicon, and content really needs work)<br> Departments<br> Volunteer<br> Contact Us<br> Supporting Game Groups<br> 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