[Deptheads] Renaming the Cons

Fri Feb 22 10:36:46 PST 2008

The problem is Gamex and Gateway are terrible names.  They have been lame since their first day.   There would be some initial rebranding, but right now we have lots of people who do not know that Gamex and Gateway are related to OrcCon or Strategicon.  I have seen various postings where people say that Gateway is a boardgame only con and OrcCon is a RPG only con or vice versa and lots of confusion about the fact all three cons are owned by the same crew. 

  OrcCon is a good solid name.   Strategicon is an okay name, but never made any sense because there is either no Strategicon event or there are three events depending who you ask.   "Strategicon Presents" is a band-aid.

  Gamex and Gateway do nothing for us.   The evoke nothing except hispanics with alternative lifestyles and a cheap computer company.   In the long run, rebranding with fun evocative names will be worth the changeover. 

  - R

Michael Russell <mikeinva8 at mac.com> wrote:
  Eric and had talked about this before the con and both agreed that 
going back to "Strategicon Presents" was needed. From the early 80"s 
till about when the con moved to the Westin it was always done that 
way on the front of the Con Book, not sure why it was taken off. I 
think with that back it will stop any confusion. I don't think 
changing the names of the con is a good idea, we would for sure lose 
some people that know them only by the names ORCCON, Gamex and 
Gateway, if those name disappear they make think the cons are gone.

Mike
On Feb 20, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Eric M. Aldrich I wrote:

> You'll notice we went back to that this Orccon -- look at the cover 
> of the con book.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 07:21:49PM -0800, Patrick Havert wrote:
>> Robert,
>>
>> D&D minis would be under collectables, we have run them in the 
>> past, but I can't remember from last con. That is Victor, and he 
>> has some contacts at WOTC, so speak with him as well, as he is an 
>> "insider" so to speak.
>>
>> I'd just like to have them be "Strategicon presents Orc Con", 
>> Strategicon presents Gamex", etc so that people understand that we 
>> are all connected. To be honest I'd like it to be "Strategicon - 
>> Winter" instead of Orc Con, but understand that we need to keep 
>> some history associated with the names.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Robert Lionheart
>> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:33 PM
>> Subject: [Deptheads] D&D 4e Launch
>>
>>
>> Would D&D Miniatures - the WotC collectible skirmish game - be put 
>> under Minis, CCG or Board Games for our conventions? Is it Jose, 
>> Victor or Patrick?
>>
>> Also, did we have any D&D minis events happen at OrcCon?
>>
>> I ask because we are trying to talk with Wizards about making 
>> Gamex the West Coast "Launch Point" for 4th edition D&D and I want 
>> to sweeten the deal by promoting their minis game as well. WotC 
>> launches the new edition of their miniatures game in April with the 
>> first expansion in May and the second in June.
>>
>> We are very lucky because Paul Tevis knows lots of WotC people and 
>> he has his award winning RPG podcast and Mike Rizzo - our RPGA guy 
>> - is also the West Coast RPGA director so we have some leverage. 
>> I really want to beat KublaCon on this. Kubla has a history of 
>> WotC Special Guests, but I am hoping we can make this happen 
>> because it would be an enormous marketing kudos for us. If anyone 
>> else has WotC contacts, please let me know!
>>
>> Also, if we get "Launch Point" status, I hope we can get 
>> permission for our dealers to sell 4e books and 4e OGL books as 
>> well. 4e books hit the US shelves on June 6th, but Hungary will be 
>> selling them two weeks early supposedly.
>>
>> Who is our primary D&D book seller in the dealer's room?
>>
>> - Robert
>>
>> PS: I thought we were going to rename Gamex and Gateway!! I want 
>> GoblinCon to go with OrcCon! OgreCon and TrollCon are already 
>> taken though.
>>
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