[Deptheads] RPGs/LARPS dept status

DB noldor at gmail.com
Fri Jun 6 11:11:10 PDT 2008 

Just a quick status on RPGs/Larps.

All scheduled LARPS went off just fine and as scheduled, including Camarilla
events.  We¹re all good there.

RPG attendance was lower than last year¹s Gamex though not dramatically.

Many GMs told me that the noise issue wasn¹t terrible but it wasn¹t
favorable to quieter GMs and players.  I was glad to hear that the noise
issue wasn¹t overwhelming.

What I was surprised at was the universal complaint over lack of air
circulation in the RPG conference rooms and strong stench that permeated
those rooms later in the day over the weekend.  I heard from people who said
that these conditions were awful and that they literally couldn¹t hold their
games where they were assigned; they found other space either in the bar,
the cabanas if they were available or their own hotel rooms.  A
heating/cooling technician who attended the con told me that he thinks the
air conditioning to Laguna/Malibu/Newport was kept very low or turned off
altogether as indicated by temperature and humidity levels in there.  Not
sure if this is another hotel issue or not; I do remember when we had staff
meetings in those rooms before and the air was frigid.  I think those spaces
were capable of being ventilated & cooled more but they purposely were not.

There were some complaints forwarded to me that there wasn¹t Open Gaming
space set-aside for RPGs.  While we could have better used the space
provided by Penthouse and the Cabanas when not used by Larps, at peak times
‹ afternoon and evening ‹ we simply didn¹t have the room necessary to set
aside Open Gaming for RPGs.  I¹m not sure how to resolve this and maybe it
can¹t be.  I would say that if we do end up setting aside Open Gaming on the
2nd floor for board-games, maybe we can route them up there.   I¹m NOT
trying to take away space from Patrick¹s dept, I just don¹t know where to
route folks if they¹re looking for designated Open Gaming space for their
rpgs.  We simply don¹t have the room amongst the first floor conference
rooms that we have now.

As many GMs that have told me they won¹t be back, other GMs told me that
they had fun and would be back regardless.  (Basically, a few on either
side.) 

The Dungeons & Dragons 4e events hosted by the RPGA proved popular though I
heard several complaints that the RPGA didn¹t have quality GMs.  RPGA seems
to be in bureaucratic hell since they don¹t have a person clearly in charge
of So Cal.  Basically, a triumvirate of supervisors deals with California
(and southwestern U.S.) and while two of them were very pleased with all the
RPGA events and where they were placed, one of them isn¹t at all happy that
the RPGA events weren¹t all grouped together in one area (we had 4e demos in
the foyer, if you recall), as well as being unhappy about lack of private
rooms for RPGA and plans to ³punish² the con by withholding certain 4e
scenarios in September.  Robert Lionheart is RPGA laison and I¹ll work with
him to get this ironed out.  My take is that RPGA needs to appreciate that
they scored more new members this past con then in their previous 3 years of
attendance at Strategicons (this figure comes from the two RPGA supervisors
who were happy with the con).  We did a big push for them and it helped both
us and them.

 - Den


On 6/6/08 10:29 AM, "thatericn at aol.com" <thatericn at aol.com> wrote:

> I totally agree.  Tailor made for RPG's.  Moving back there would be a slam
> dunk improvement for the roleplaying segment.
> 
> Eric N.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DB <noldor at gmail.com>
> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
> 
> I¹ll take Westin¹s 3rd floor, though.
> 
>  - Den
> 
> 
> On 6/6/08 10:06 AM, "thatericn at aol.com" <thatericn at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> No, we'll have the ballrooms. Though they've put me off until next week with
>>> the written proposal.
>> 
>> THAT is a relief.  Breathing easier.  It's just too bad the Westin couldn't
>> trade second floors with the Raddison....
>> 
>> Eric N.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric M. Aldrich I <ealdrich at penguinlust.org>
>> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:01 am
>> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>> 
>> On 06 Jun, 2008, at 09:23, Thatericn at aol.com wrote:
>>  
>>> > Westin and Raddison....
>>> > 
>>> > ...Scylla and Charibdis.
>>> > 
>>> > So, we'll "have" to move back to the con-killer layout at the > Westin;
>>> and apparently still without the lower ballrooms?
>>  
>> No, we'll have the ballrooms. Though they've put me off until next week with
>> the written proposal.
>>  
>> Eric 
>>  
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Great. 
>>> > 
>>> > Now we'll be angering attendees with crowding, noise and disjointed >
>>> layouts. What's scary about that is that now we'll be potentially > angering
>>> everyone, not just those staying over at the hotel.
>>> > 
>>> > Brace yourselves for an "interesting" 2009.
>>> > 
>>> > Eric N. 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Eric M. Aldrich I <ealdrich at penguinlust.org>
>>> > To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>> > Sent: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:41 pm
>>> > Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>>> > 
>>> > That's only ONE meets all three ... kinda critical info. Take a wild >
>>> guess as to where that might be?
>>> > 
>>> > Eric 
>>> > 
>>> > On 05 Jun, 2008, at 23:27, Eric M. Aldrich I wrote:
>>> > 
>>>> > > Our parameters are simply this: About 40,000 sq feet convention > >
>>>> space. Under $5000 or under set up fee (ideally $4000 or less), and > > the
>>>> dates available. It doesn't leave a lot of options. About 20 > > hotels
>>>> have been called so far. Only meets all three....
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > Eric 
>>>> > > 
>>>> > > On 05 Jun, 2008, at 22:39, Robyn Nixon wrote:
>>>> > > 
>>>>> > >> What are our parameters?
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> Location:
>>>>> > >> LAX only
>>>>> > >> Burbank?
>>>>> > >> Ontario?
>>>>> > >> Long Beach?
>>>>> > >> Anaheim?
>>>>> > >> Riverside?
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> I know that if we move south, we lose northerners
>>>>> > >> But we gain southerners
>>>>> > >> We move east
>>>>> > >> We lose westerners
>>>>> > >> We move west
>>>>> > >> We lose easterners
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> Do we want to stay close to airports?
>>>>> > >> How close?
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> From: deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
>>>>> [mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
>>>>> <mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net?> > >> ] On Behalf Of Eric
>>>>> Burgess 
>>>>> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:04 PM
>>>>> > >> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> I thought it was lack of a place to go. The hotel will be in > breach
>>>>> >> when they cannot provide parking. If someone could come up > with >>
>>>>> somewhere that would host the show at a reasonable price, I > think >>
>>>>> we'd be gone. But nothing is out there (and available) for > Gateway.
>>>>> > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Janice Sellers >>
>>>>> <janicemsj at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>>> > >> On 6/5/08, Robyn Nixon <robynln at trackrecords.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > What is keeping us at this hotel this coming convention??
>>>>> > >> A signed contract. If we break the terms we're the ones in breach.
>>>>> > >> We don't want that to happen.
>>>>> > >> 
>>>>> > >> Janice 
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