[Deptheads] RPGs/LARPS dept status
Eric M. Aldrich I
ealdrich at penguinlust.org
Fri Jun 6 18:40:35 PDT 2008
We have 4(?) fans that we can use to deal with the air circulation
issues. Obviously, that won't cover every room but can help in the big
ones.
For RPGs we can certainly use the space in the Penthouse for open
gaming next con, at least early and mid day.
"Punish" us? Sounds a bit juvenile. It hurts the players more than
anything. See if we can find a way to sooth those ruffled feathers.
Obviously, if we're back to the Westin, RPGs are set.
Eric
On 06 Jun, 2008, at 11:11, DB wrote:
> Just a quick status on RPGs/Larps.
>
> All scheduled LARPS went off just fine and as scheduled, including
> Camarilla events. We’re all good there.
>
> RPG attendance was lower than last year’s Gamex though not
> dramatically.
>
> Many GMs told me that the noise issue wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t
> favorable to quieter GMs and players. I was glad to hear that the
> noise issue wasn’t overwhelming.
>
> What I was surprised at was the universal complaint over lack of air
> circulation in the RPG conference rooms and strong stench that
> permeated those rooms later in the day over the weekend. I heard
> from people who said that these conditions were awful and that they
> literally couldn’t hold their games where they were assigned; they
> found other space either in the bar, the cabanas if they were
> available or their own hotel rooms. A heating/cooling technician
> who attended the con told me that he thinks the air conditioning to
> Laguna/Malibu/Newport was kept very low or turned off altogether as
> indicated by temperature and humidity levels in there. Not sure if
> this is another hotel issue or not; I do remember when we had staff
> meetings in those rooms before and the air was frigid. I think
> those spaces were capable of being ventilated & cooled more but they
> purposely were not.
>
> There were some complaints forwarded to me that there wasn’t Open
> Gaming space set-aside for RPGs. While we could have better used
> the space provided by Penthouse and the Cabanas when not used by
> Larps, at peak times — afternoon and evening — we simply didn’t have
> the room necessary to set aside Open Gaming for RPGs. I’m not sure
> how to resolve this and maybe it can’t be. I would say that if we
> do end up setting aside Open Gaming on the 2nd floor for board-
> games, maybe we can route them up there. I’m NOT trying to take
> away space from Patrick’s dept, I just don’t know where to route
> folks if they’re looking for designated Open Gaming space for their
> rpgs. We simply don’t have the room amongst the first floor
> conference rooms that we have now.
>
> As many GMs that have told me they won’t be back, other GMs told me
> that they had fun and would be back regardless. (Basically, a few
> on either side.)
>
> The Dungeons & Dragons 4e events hosted by the RPGA proved popular
> though I heard several complaints that the RPGA didn’t have quality
> GMs. RPGA seems to be in bureaucratic hell since they don’t have a
> person clearly in charge of So Cal. Basically, a triumvirate of
> supervisors deals with California (and southwestern U.S.) and while
> two of them were very pleased with all the RPGA events and where
> they were placed, one of them isn’t at all happy that the RPGA
> events weren’t all grouped together in one area (we had 4e demos in
> the foyer, if you recall), as well as being unhappy about lack of
> private rooms for RPGA and plans to “punish” the con by withholding
> certain 4e scenarios in September. Robert Lionheart is RPGA laison
> and I’ll work with him to get this ironed out. My take is that RPGA
> needs to appreciate that they scored more new members this past con
> then in their previous 3 years of attendance at Strategicons (this
> figure comes from the two RPGA supervisors who were happy with the
> con). We did a big push for them and it helped both us and them.
>
> - Den
>
>
> On 6/6/08 10:29 AM, "thatericn at aol.com" <thatericn at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I totally agree. Tailor made for RPG's. Moving back there would
>> be a slam dunk improvement for the roleplaying segment.
>>
>> Eric N.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DB <noldor at gmail.com>
>> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:19 am
>> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>>
>> I’ll take Westin’s 3rd floor, though.
>>
>> - Den
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/08 10:06 AM, "thatericn at aol.com" <thatericn at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> No, we'll have the ballrooms. Though they've put me off until
>>>> next week with the written proposal.
>>>
>>> THAT is a relief. Breathing easier. It's just too bad the Westin
>>> couldn't trade second floors with the Raddison....
>>>
>>> Eric N.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Eric M. Aldrich I <ealdrich at penguinlust.org>
>>> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>> Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:01 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>>>
>>> On 06 Jun, 2008, at 09:23, Thatericn at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > Westin and Raddison....
>>> >
>>> > ...Scylla and Charibdis.
>>> >
>>> > So, we'll "have" to move back to the con-killer layout at the >
>>> Westin; and apparently still without the lower ballrooms?
>>>
>>> No, we'll have the ballrooms. Though they've put me off until next
>>> week with the written proposal.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Great.
>>> >
>>> > Now we'll be angering attendees with crowding, noise and
>>> disjointed > layouts. What's scary about that is that now we'll be
>>> potentially > angering everyone, not just those staying over at
>>> the hotel.
>>> >
>>> > Brace yourselves for an "interesting" 2009.
>>> >
>>> > Eric N.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Eric M. Aldrich I <ealdrich at penguinlust.org>
>>> > To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>> > Sent: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:41 pm
>>> > Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>>> >
>>> > That's only ONE meets all three ... kinda critical info. Take a
>>> wild > guess as to where that might be?
>>> >
>>> > Eric
>>> >
>>> > On 05 Jun, 2008, at 23:27, Eric M. Aldrich I wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Our parameters are simply this: About 40,000 sq feet
>>> convention > > space. Under $5000 or under set up fee (ideally
>>> $4000 or less), and > > the dates available. It doesn't leave a
>>> lot of options. About 20 > > hotels have been called so far. Only
>>> meets all three....
>>> > >
>>> > > Eric
>>> > >
>>> > > On 05 Jun, 2008, at 22:39, Robyn Nixon wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> What are our parameters?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Location:
>>> > >> LAX only
>>> > >> Burbank?
>>> > >> Ontario?
>>> > >> Long Beach?
>>> > >> Anaheim?
>>> > >> Riverside?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I know that if we move south, we lose northerners
>>> > >> But we gain southerners
>>> > >> We move east
>>> > >> We lose westerners
>>> > >> We move west
>>> > >> We lose easterners
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Do we want to stay close to airports?
>>> > >> How close?
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net [mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net
>>> <mailto:deptheads-bounces at strategicon.net?> > >> ] On Behalf Of
>>> Eric Burgess
>>> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:04 PM
>>> > >> To: deptheads at strategicon.net
>>> > >> Subject: Re: [Deptheads] Miniature Feedback Received
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I thought it was lack of a place to go. The hotel will be in
>>> > breach >> when they cannot provide parking. If someone could
>>> come up > with >> somewhere that would host the show at a
>>> reasonable price, I > think >> we'd be gone. But nothing is out
>>> there (and available) for > Gateway.
>>> > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Janice Sellers >> <janicemsj at gmail.com
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >> On 6/5/08, Robyn Nixon <robynln at trackrecords.net> wrote:
>>> > >> > What is keeping us at this hotel this coming convention??
>>> > >> A signed contract. If we break the terms we're the ones in
>>> breach.
>>> > >> We don't want that to happen.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Janice
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