[Deptheads] Boardgames Query
Tim Keennon
Tim at StuGIII.com
Tue Oct 28 16:35:09 PDT 2008
Norm, You and Mark are right. I should have kept my personal feelings
out of it. I am sorry I said it...
Tim
Norman Carlson wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Everyone that is on-board now as a volunteer or staff member are, in
> my opinion, working to improve the convention not just there
> department. Patrick has soon this to be the case on several occasions
> in the past. Your attitude and comments where a personal attack on
> Patrick and as Mark has already stipulated where unacceptable.
>
> Norm
>
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> *From:* Tim <Tim at stugiii.com>
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net; mhyman at xcomwireless.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:20:11 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>
> It's not a flame war Mark,
>
> Patrick has jumped all over two very reasonable suggestions and has
> been condescending and combative. If you object to the term I
> used...fine. Patrick I apologise for calling you an asshole. Perhaps
> I should have considered my words more carefully. However I stand by
> the rest of what I said.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Mark K Hyman wrote:
>> Tim,
>>
>> Your personal attack is unacceptable.
>>
>> I do share frustration that Patrick seems to fight the inclusion of
>> RSI. However, your stated goal of trying to make the convention
>> better does NOT nor SHOULD NOT include the attack you just leveled.
>> The only way to get the convention better is for us to work
>> together. Of course we will have disagreements as to the best way to
>> do so, but they are just that, disagreements not some call to battle
>> or flame-war.
>>
>> Find a better way of communicating your concerns so we can make the
>> cons a better place.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Hyman - VP Administration
>> XCOM Wireless, Inc.
>> 2815 Junipero Ave #110
>> Signal Hill, CA 90755
>> (562) 981-0077 x11 (562) 981-0089 fax
>> mhyman at xcomwireless.net
>>
>>
>> Tim wrote:
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> Is being an asshole a requirement for running boardgames or does it
>>> just come naturally to you? Either way you excel at it.
>>>
>>> My goal is to make the convention as a whole better. This
>>> departmental fiefdom bullshit needs to stop. Each department SHOULD
>>> be working towards the goal of improving the con. You need to be an
>>> advocate for your department, but you also need to remember YOU are
>>> your department are not the convention. Anything that increases one
>>> department but hurts another isn't good for the con as a whole. The
>>> idea is to get more people into the venue, which generates more
>>> revenue and allows a better venue, etc...
>>>
>>> I remember RSI...I liked the energy they had and think they would be
>>> a good addition to the con. Putting them in open gaming (which is
>>> where I recall them being seems like a good idea). If you disagree,
>>> ok...lets figure a place to put them. You comments were uncalled
>>> for and not productive. Is there some personal reason you don't
>>> want RSI at Orccon...And remember, open gaming is for all games...
>>> not just open _boardgaming_
>>>
>>> I am curious though...can you explain how you would need the same
>>> number of tables and amount of room if you had 6 events versus 30
>>> between 9a - 11p?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Patrick Havert wrote:
>>>> Tim,
>>>>
>>>> We have the same number of people whether we have 30 or 6 events
>>>> going fom 9am to 11pm.
>>>>
>>>> If you want them so bad, let's put them in the computer room, you
>>>> can make room for them by just adjusting the hours the people
>>>> working get to play, right?
>>>>
>>>> -Patrick
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Tim Keennon <mailto:Tim at StuGIII.com>
>>>> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net <mailto:deptheads at strategicon.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:02 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>>>>
>>>> Patrick,
>>>>
>>>> I realize that, but I think if we spread the events
>>>> out...beginning earlier and ending later rather then
>>>> concentrating during the peak ten to two time slots we will be
>>>> able to get more out of our existing tables and make better use
>>>> of the room we have available..
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Havert wrote:
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is our biggest con of the year, Boadrgames overflowed big
>>>>> time last year, and if we can not have them at this con, but
>>>>> at another con, Then they become a special attraction for that
>>>>> con, and we get 4-5 extra tables.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> *From:* Tim <mailto:Tim at StuGIII.com>
>>>>> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
>>>>> <mailto:deptheads at strategicon.net>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2008 10:06 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh yeah...I remember who they are, I just never knew them
>>>>> by that name...
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice thing about them, by virtue of how they operate, you
>>>>> can generate an accurate list of how much interest they
>>>>> generate. We should stick them in the corner in open
>>>>> gaming...I think they would be a good draw...
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait...someone said we don't have room for them? Why is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor B wrote:
>>>>>> RSI
>>>>>> Reality simulations, Inc.
>>>>>> Electronic pbm games (duel 2, and forgotten realms: orcs
>>>>>> vs dwarves are the that 2 games lee and sandy of RSI run
>>>>>> at strategicons)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> V
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *From:* Tim <Tim at stugiii.com>
>>>>>> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2008 3:42:31 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] Boardgames Query
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance...who is RSI?
>>>>>>
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