[Deptheads] SoCal Smackdown (Was: Get games up ASAP!)

Thu Jun 10 08:47:12 PDT 2010

Hello Everyone,

I would agree with Victor on this and to everyone who suggest we focus on
us.  I would like to remind everyone as well be careful what you say in
these e-mails. These e-mails can get out to the Smackdown folks, or worse
the public.  The White house has e-mail leaks all the time don't assume we
do not.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:51 AM, mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com>wrote:

> I am pretty sure the the husband wife combined hours has been allowed
> before.
>
> I know RPG is different from BG, but this is what I do. I allow the same
> adventure run twice. I would suggest you decide how many times you want that
> game run, and anything over that will not count towards the room
> reimbursement.
>
> I do not penalized a GM for a game not running at that con, but if their
> games consistently do not run (over multiple cons), I ask them not to run
> games at the next con without some major changes to genre and system.
>
> I have do not see a reason to treat MIBs different if SJG also compensates
> them.
>
> Mike Fryer
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Gayle Charboneau <monkedoodles at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Question?  How compensated are they for their time?  Question of the
>> reimbursement for rooms came up last con.  We have a husband and wife team
>> that want to work a combine hours for the 24 (1/4 of a room), which is
>> against the policy I was given.  And with a few others who do work 24 hours
>> by themselves, but the games are multiple of the same (6+ in some cases) and
>> some (many at other cons in the past) have not run.   So, how compensated
>> are they and are we giving them a 1/4 of a room, when they might be getting
>> that already from MIB?
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Devi Hughes <devi at ocbg.net>
>> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
>> *Sent:* Wed, June 9, 2010 4:08:18 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] SoCal Smackdown (Was: Get games up ASAP!)
>>
>> Regarding MIBs (and speaking as a MIB):
>>
>> 1.  We can not discriminate against a MIB for running events outside of
>> Strategicon, no matter what the venue is.  It is there "job" to demo and
>> promote Steve Jackson Games wherever they can, and at as many venues as they
>> can.  We need to create a better environment for them to demo at than SoCal
>> Smakdown.  I don't think SJG would ever consider an "exclusive" agreement
>> where MIB are only demoing games at specific venues and not others; that
>> goes counter to everything I know about the program.
>>
>> 2.  It's my opinion that the MIB program is very important to SJG, and the
>> volunteer organization has considerable influence with Steve and the company
>> overall.  The MIBs are VERY well compensated for their work.  The program is
>> VERY well organized by SJG.  I've never seen so many publisher resources
>> given to a demo team program in the industry, as I have with the MIB
>> program.  SJG tracks how much work any given MIB has done over their
>> "lifetime", and this is considered when evaluating an individual's
>> importance within the program.  Some MIBs will have more of Steve's ear.
>> Don't underestimate the influence some MIB may have.  That having been said,
>> MIBs are definately NOT SJG employees, of course.
>>
>> 3.  My understanding is that Robert Andrusko is the Convention Liason for
>> Strategicon Conventions (taking over the position from me).  The Convention
>> Liason is the single point of contact for Strategicon with regards to the
>> MIB presence.  There should be only one point of contact, and all convention
>> activities should be coordinated through the Liason.  That doesn't mean we
>> can't communicate with individual MIBs where appropriate, or that Robert
>> can't delegate responsibility, but Robert should be the convention's
>> one-stop-shop for all MIB issues.
>>
>> Devi
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Eric Burgess <erburgess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Agreed. Incidentally, Mike Kelly isn't working on the MIB activities
>>> for board games. That is Robert Andrusko and we are developing a good
>>> relationship with him.
>>>
>>> ...ERB
>>> www.boardgamebabylon.com
>>> www.strategicon.net
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Nekojin <nekojin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  My suggestion on that matter was with the mind that we really don't
>>>> want people playing both ends against the middle, and playing us off against
>>>> each other. But upon reflection, there's not much that MiBs could do along
>>>> those lines that would be worth concern.
>>>>
>>>> I agree very much that we need to avoid causing more drama into the
>>>> situation that's developing. We need to be defusing the drama, not feeding
>>>> it. Let the other guys look like the heels.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM, mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >I don't think the Steve Jackson MIBs should expect that if they GM at
>>>>> SoCal Smackdown they can come back to Orccon
>>>>> > and work it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you planning to go over there and check to see who is running
>>>>> games? Insist that people run games at Gateway to be able to run games at
>>>>> Orccon? How could you do this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Kelly has recently been put in charge of MIBs for our cons, I am
>>>>> on great terms with him. I would not expect him to go to another con, but if
>>>>> he does or any of the other MIBs do, I will not be tracking where they go or
>>>>> restricting their ability to run games for me at other cons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly believe that the only way to deal with a competing
>>>>> convention is to improve what we do. Punishing anyone for trying out
>>>>> something new will only hurt us. I don't think exclusivity is even a good
>>>>> idea to bring up with SJG. There is no reason for SJG to restrict its MIBs
>>>>> from going to any con the MIBs want to attend. Just make sure that the MIBs
>>>>> and other GMs enjoy running games at our cons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Fryer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> "Would you like another drink, sir?" asked the bartender.
>>>> "I think not," replied Descartes, and promptly vanished.
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