[Deptheads] SoCal Smackdown (Was: Get games up ASAP!)
Devi Hughes
devi at ocbg.net
Thu Jun 10 10:44:09 PDT 2010
To clarify, MIBs are compensated with Steve Jackson Games product only. We
get a lot of product, but compensation is only in the form of games, not
monetary compensation. Unfortunately, the hotel staff won't accept the
latest Munchkin expansion in exchange for a hotel room. :)
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Gayle Charboneau <monkedoodles at yahoo.com>wrote:
> Question? How compensated are they for their time? Question of the
> reimbursement for rooms came up last con. We have a husband and wife team
> that want to work a combine hours for the 24 (1/4 of a room), which is
> against the policy I was given. And with a few others who do work 24 hours
> by themselves, but the games are multiple of the same (6+ in some cases) and
> some (many at other cons in the past) have not run. So, how compensated
> are they and are we giving them a 1/4 of a room, when they might be getting
> that already from MIB?
>
> Gayle
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Devi Hughes <devi at ocbg.net>
> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
> *Sent:* Wed, June 9, 2010 4:08:18 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] SoCal Smackdown (Was: Get games up ASAP!)
>
> Regarding MIBs (and speaking as a MIB):
>
> 1. We can not discriminate against a MIB for running events outside of
> Strategicon, no matter what the venue is. It is there "job" to demo and
> promote Steve Jackson Games wherever they can, and at as many venues as they
> can. We need to create a better environment for them to demo at than SoCal
> Smakdown. I don't think SJG would ever consider an "exclusive" agreement
> where MIB are only demoing games at specific venues and not others; that
> goes counter to everything I know about the program.
>
> 2. It's my opinion that the MIB program is very important to SJG, and the
> volunteer organization has considerable influence with Steve and the company
> overall. The MIBs are VERY well compensated for their work. The program is
> VERY well organized by SJG. I've never seen so many publisher resources
> given to a demo team program in the industry, as I have with the MIB
> program. SJG tracks how much work any given MIB has done over their
> "lifetime", and this is considered when evaluating an individual's
> importance within the program. Some MIBs will have more of Steve's ear.
> Don't underestimate the influence some MIB may have. That having been said,
> MIBs are definately NOT SJG employees, of course.
>
> 3. My understanding is that Robert Andrusko is the Convention Liason for
> Strategicon Conventions (taking over the position from me). The Convention
> Liason is the single point of contact for Strategicon with regards to the
> MIB presence. There should be only one point of contact, and all convention
> activities should be coordinated through the Liason. That doesn't mean we
> can't communicate with individual MIBs where appropriate, or that Robert
> can't delegate responsibility, but Robert should be the convention's
> one-stop-shop for all MIB issues.
>
> Devi
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Eric Burgess <erburgess at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. Incidentally, Mike Kelly isn't working on the MIB activities for
>> board games. That is Robert Andrusko and we are developing a good
>> relationship with him.
>>
>> ...ERB
>> www.boardgamebabylon.com
>> www.strategicon.net
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Nekojin <nekojin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My suggestion on that matter was with the mind that we really don't
>>> want people playing both ends against the middle, and playing us off against
>>> each other. But upon reflection, there's not much that MiBs could do along
>>> those lines that would be worth concern.
>>>
>>> I agree very much that we need to avoid causing more drama into the
>>> situation that's developing. We need to be defusing the drama, not feeding
>>> it. Let the other guys look like the heels.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM, mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I don't think the Steve Jackson MIBs should expect that if they GM at
>>>> SoCal Smackdown they can come back to Orccon
>>>> > and work it.
>>>>
>>>> Are you planning to go over there and check to see who is running games?
>>>> Insist that people run games at Gateway to be able to run games at Orccon?
>>>> How could you do this?
>>>>
>>>> Mike Kelly has recently been put in charge of MIBs for our cons, I am on
>>>> great terms with him. I would not expect him to go to another con, but if he
>>>> does or any of the other MIBs do, I will not be tracking where they go or
>>>> restricting their ability to run games for me at other cons.
>>>>
>>>> I strongly believe that the only way to deal with a competing convention
>>>> is to improve what we do. Punishing anyone for trying out something new will
>>>> only hurt us. I don't think exclusivity is even a good idea to bring up with
>>>> SJG. There is no reason for SJG to restrict its MIBs from going to any con
>>>> the MIBs want to attend. Just make sure that the MIBs and other GMs enjoy
>>>> running games at our cons.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Fryer
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> "Would you like another drink, sir?" asked the bartender.
>>> "I think not," replied Descartes, and promptly vanished.
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