[Deptheads] The Saga Of The Three Con Names

Tue Apr 30 23:20:48 PDT 2013

My mistake.....

Connected by Motorola

mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com> wrote:

>John
>
>Where did you get the idea of doing separate banners for each con? You are
>the only person discussing that option.
>
>Mike
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>
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>On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:52 PM, evil5757 at aol.com <evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:
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>> I agree completely that the cons need to be distinct....but do we need to
>> triple our cost to make a banner for each con is the question.
>>
>> Answer is no unless we can free up about $1500 - $1800 somewhere to make 3
>> for each department instead of 1.
>>
>>
>> *Connected by Motorola*
>>
>>
>> Victor B <fhoenix88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for all the input everyone.
>> Orccon was first and was established in 1977. The other 2 followed. The
>> original founder from 77 plus some of the other previous owners are
>> vendors at our con, and/or support our con. I even met 2 previous owners at
>> GAMA--one from the 80s and one from the 90s. They both talked fondly of the
>> con and started sentences off with "back in 1995 when I ran the con....".
>> Neither has lived in cali for many years. We have a rich 36 year history.
>> There are less than a handful of people, like Ryan, that have been with
>> this con over 25 years and been a part of 70+ of it's conventions. This con
>> will still be going when most all of us have moved on.
>>
>> I mentioned Orccon, Gamex and Gateway versus strategicon 3X a year (feb,
>> may, sept) because I wanted everyone here to put in their 2-cents before we
>> made a decision.
>> I wanted everyone to hear what Ryan, Norm, Mike Russell, Mike Fryer, Eric
>> N., Eric B., and Kryssie had to say as well as supervisors and others on
>> this list. Your input is valuable.
>> Thanks
>>
>> V
>>
>>    *From:* Michael Russell <mikeinva8 at mac.com>
>> *To:* deptheads at strategicon.net
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:52 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Deptheads] The Saga Of The Three Con Names
>>
>> Ok just wanted to get my two cents in on this before the final word comes
>> down.  I think that we need to have either Strategicon or the name of the
>> conventions on the banners for few reason.  One, not only are people at the
>> hotel for the convention, but a lot of guest of the hotel walk through
>> wondering what is going on.  With out Strategicon or the con names  on the
>> banners there is NOTHING advertising who we are. When working the reg desk
>> many many times people have noted the name Strategicon or the con name when
>> asking what was going on.  Second if someone is new to the cons, this
>> reaffirms they are in the right place, and with a move coming soon, I think
>> we need this more than ever.
>>
>> As for the names of the Cons (Orccon, Gamex, Gateway) they have been those
>> name for over 25-30 years(Yes me and Eric A. have been going to these con
>> for that long), and have worked well (by the way for those of you that
>> don't know this, Orccon stood for Orange county Convention) not the ugly
>> beast :)   When ever I think of changing the names I think of companies
>> that did that and it was a disaster - Think Radio Shack trying to change to
>> "The Shack" how well did that work for them?   And all three names are
>> something easy to remember, so when they get home and google it, right of
>> the bat, strategicon come up, and that is what we want.
>>
>> As for each Convention having a "Theme" not bad but like someone else said
>> have it very low key, like the program cover art of one con be board games,
>> another war games and another RPG.  We do not want people saying "Oh I
>> don't go to Gamex because that is there RPG con", we might loose people to
>> something like that.
>>
>> So that is my two cents worth.
>> Mike Russell
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Tim <tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Mike will get the decision by tomorrow morning...
>>
>>
>> On 4/30/2013 10:34 AM, Ryan McMullan wrote:
>>
>> In the interim before a bold leadership decision is made, I second just
>> listing department name so the posters aren't in limbo.
>> Ryan
>> On Apr 30, 2013 9:32 AM, "evil5757 at aol.com" <evil5757 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Everyone, the purpose of the banners is to let people know where they
>> are. Drop everything but the department. They know we're strategicon and
>> they know what convention it is! They're there!
>>
>>
>>  *Connected by Motorola*
>>
>>
>> mike fryer <darkbeerdrinker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Why is that a problem and why should there be a difference? All three
>> are game cons run by the same people at the same location, how different
>> can they be? When have they ever been different and all own by the same
>> person(s)?
>>
>>  Mike Fryer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Tim Keennon <tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>>
>>  That is the problem we have. There should be something different and
>> there isn't at the moment.
>>
>>  Not making the cons distinct entities is one of our issues.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>  Sent from my mobile device.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Neil Figuracion <fadtwentythree at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>   I'll throw this question out:
>>
>>  Other than time of year, what's different about each convention?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Eric Nyquist <thatericn at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Hi -
>>
>> Since we've been the convention ownership, there definitely has been a moderately strong shift towards using Strategicon as a blanket term, versus the individual names. Back in "ye olde days" the phrase "Strategicon presents" was more boilerplate than identification; more of the background ownership than the out-front name and face for the conventions.
>>
>> My suggestion to harmonize the naming issue would be to do something like this on the flyers, con books, web, social media, etc.:
>>
>>
>>  *ORCCON*
>>
>> *Strategicon's Winter Convention*
>>
>>  *GAMEX*
>>
>> *Strategicon's Spring Convention*
>>
>>
>>
>>  *GATEWAY*
>>
>> *Strategicon's Summer Convention*
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> ... or we might consider *"Strategicon's Winter Gaming Convention"* or even *"Strategicon's Winter Event"*
>>
>> Recognized names are kept, no babies are thrown out with bathwater, while each con's identity is better defined and clarified.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric N.
>>
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