[Deptheads] Orccon Space Layout

Tim Tim at StuGIII.com
Fri Nov 13 09:45:01 PST 2009 


Eric Burgess wrote:
> Mike's assessments are astute. It's silly to make changes based on the
> Radisson setup if we won't be there after this convention. Let's talk
> about the Sheraton and what we can do there.
>   
The changes are for the Radisson and Orccon.  The Sheraton setup is so 
different that comparisons are meaningless
> I also fundamentally disagree with the assessment that mixing the
> departments will be some kind of benefit for all of them. Sorry to
> mini gamers on the list but board gamers do not want to share space
> with them for logistical issues that Mike mentions, perceived hygiene
> issues (real or imagined - perception is reality so please don't get
> upset at me over that) and they have generally zero interest in
> crossing over. If they do want to try them out, they have our big
> minis demos in the foyer so they can get exposure.
>   

> I find little to gain and a lot to lose in this equation. If the board
> gamers find there is trouble getting open gaming space, they will
> leave. There are a lot of board gamers that simply don't do
> tournaments and with the advent of the improved game library, there is
> buzz that coming to the convention to just play a bunch of new games
> that will be available (something prevalent at most national board
> game events) is starting to build. The improved library will help us
> see an uptick in open gaming. The last thing I would want to do is
> frustrate those people who might be experimenting with Orccon after
> positive buzz from Gateway by having insufficient tables available -
> or tables that were a million miles away from the hotbed of board game
> activity.
>   
The logistical issues are mine to deal with.  I have spent a lot of time 
in the past year and a half counting empty tables.  Open gaming is the 
most poorly utilized space in the con.  Many of the tables were empty or 
taken up by stuff (backpacks, food, etc).  By having open gaming in the 
last ballroom it is usable only by board games.  So if the tables are 
empty, they can't easily be used by another department.  .The big 
miniatures games will go in the foyer, but there are bound to be some 
that will need to be in the ballroom.  Having open gaming between 
boardgames and mini's should provide you with the separation you 
desire.This is not about taking table space away from anyone as much as 
it is about using the limited space we have efficiently.  Orccon is 
going to be tight and we all need to help make it work
> The library was moved into the space basically vacated by RPG HQ. It
> was widely perceived to be very successful and kept our team from
> stressing out over also covering RPG HQ. Mike can speak about any drop
> in sign-ups on his side that one might attribute to the move.
>   
Both you and Mike have provided good reasons to keep RPG and BG HQs 
separate, so they will remain so..
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> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Tim <Tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>   
>> Mike,
>>
>> At Gamex we moved several miniatures games into the ballroom and pushed two
>> tables together.  We also need to have a few risers available in open
>> gaming.  Open gaming is "open", it should be usable for everyone.
>>
>> Why did you want RPG HQ moved from BG HQ?  What was put in its place?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> mike fryer wrote:
>>
>> I do not feel that this is a good idea, RPG HQ used to be next to BG HQ. I
>> worked to separate the 2 HQs and I feel that it was an improvement. Plus,
>> once we move to the Sheraton, RPG HQ will not even be in the ballroom.
>> Miniatures mostly uses risers, so it will not be easy to "adjust the space
>> to take advantage of empty tables". I understand the idea behind this
>> suggestion, but I didn't think the details will allow it to work the way Tim
>> is thinking it will. Hopefully this will be our last con at the Radisson, so
>> major changes at Orccon will be a lot of work for no permanent gains.
>>
>>
>> Mike Fryer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Eric Burgess <erburgess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> I think Orccon is the wrong con to try this. Please wait to do
>>> something radical with a smaller convention where board games isn't
>>> hosting such large events. Gamex will be quieter and a better time to
>>> experiment.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 12, 2009, Tim Keennon <Tim at stugiii.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> For Orccon I want to try something different with the ballroom.  I want
>>>> to try to group Board Games, Miniatures and RPG HQs together.  I will have
>>>> to look at the layouts we have used in the past and I know we have to put
>>>> the game library and Karl in there somewhere as well.  Basically what I want
>>>> to try is to have Board Games populate from the last ballroom towards the
>>>> foyer and Miniatures populate the room from the foyer in, with open gaming
>>>> in between the two.
>>>> This is all predicated on the lighting at the back of the ballroom being
>>>> fixed.  The alternative to this is to have RPGs and Miniatures HQs directly
>>>> opposite Board Games and the game library and populating towards each other.
>>>>  Obviously this won't be a true split, Board Games will have a majority of
>>>> the space.  The advantage of this is we can adjust the space to take
>>>> advantage of empty tables.Mike has asked for a couple of tables by RPG HQ,
>>>> which we should be able to work out or he can have some space in the foyer
>>>> if he would rather do that.
>>>>
>>>> The Foyer will be used for large games (eg GQ, M&M, etc) high quality,
>>>> high visibility demos & games (as well as the flea market and paint & take,
>>>> etc).
>>>>
>>>> Note that FoW Tourney and the GW GT's will be in the penthouse and
>>>> circle drive rooms.  I also think we have RPGs and LARPs pretty well placed.
>>>>  Computer/Video games will be in San Jose.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to hear any constructive comments and suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
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