[Deptheads] Event Types

Thu Aug 8 17:09:45 PDT 2019

OK, I searched and couldn't find what the difference is between small,
medium and large tournaments. Is there somewhere that explains this?
Thanks,
Karla

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:52 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:

> Message From: Tanya Aldrich  taldrich at strategicon.net
> Yay. I’m getting happy vibes. :)
>
> Tanya
>
> On May 30, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <
> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>
> Message From: Jim Sandoval  plustentoawesome at gmail.com
> This seems like a great way to give people better information. I am also a
> fan of anything that promotes cross-department cooperation and synergise
> event scheduling.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:57 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>
>> Message From: Tanya Aldrich  taldrich at strategicon.net
>> Thank you Mike and Karla. :)
>>
>> It paid off for me to explain my plans to some folks at the con.
>>
>> The plan is for a “Primary Event Type” with optional “Secondary Event
>> Type” and for admins only “Host”, since our departments mostly equate to
>> event types.
>>
>> Events will be searchable by Primary and Secondary Type.
>>
>> Host will default to the Primary Event Type. Host will determine which
>> admins see and control the event, since it’s their time and space. Host
>> will not be searchable on the Event Schedule.
>>
>> When Host is General, the real host will be determined by the location.
>> This may change at some point, but with all the changes already happening I
>> need some things to stay consistent.
>>
>> Just to show how this will change some events.
>> Artemis will likely be searchable under Video Games and RPGs or LARPs,
>> but will be hosted by General still.
>>
>> --------------
>> Note on Location: Location can be one of two options, the exact location
>> of the event, or the location of the paperwork until the event starts. I
>> personally think the HQ location is the best place to send everyone and
>> have them directed from there. You could post a room assignment list at the
>> HQ. If you really want to list the location of the event, but don’t know it
>> yet, please list the paperwork/HQ location until you do. The idea is that
>> people always have a reasonable physical location to look for answers.
>> --------------
>>
>> Tanya
>>
>> P.S. I’m usually more than happy to discuss web site requests or issues
>> at the con, though as I mentioned to Shane, if you don’t email me a
>> reminder of what we discussed, I may not remember it by the time I get
>> home. I’m usually in the Family Area and if I’m at the HQ and not helping
>> someone, I’m usually all ears. :)
>>
>> On May 30, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Strategicon Department Heads <
>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Message From: Karla Freeman  thesquirrelwrangler at gmail.com
>> She explained this to me as well and makes sense. Since most SJG games
>> are up in their area in Collectables, it would be good for people to find
>> under a card game or board game search...same for AEG, Renegade, and IGA
>> games run by teams there. Since the CMON team sticks together in minis,
>> sometimes people don't realize there are some games that are technically
>> board games. Especially games like Blood Rage and Rising Sun that are board
>> games with minis...that take up room.
>> It made perfect sense when Tanya explained it to me.
>> Karla
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2019, 9:43 AM Strategicon Department Heads <
>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Message From: Mike James  minis.tyrant at gmail.com
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> I think something that would greatly help this conversation is to share
>>> something Tanya told me about possible changes to the way we sort and
>>> search. Short version, you will be able to select a secondary type of game
>>> so that if the event has any type of crossover, it would be listed under a
>>> search for that type also without being a second complete entry. So in that
>>> context, her question about how wide that should be has a different focus.
>>> As far as minis events, the majority of any crossover would be boardgames
>>> and occasionally RPGs. I haven't been able to think of any that would
>>> really qualify for a third without getting overly abstract about it. I
>>> think she was looking for an answer about if anyone can make the legitimate
>>> case for needing a tertiary tyoe for search criteria.
>>>
>>> I reserve the right to be completely incorrect about this, but that is
>>> how i read to me.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:38 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
>>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Message From: Jason Orman  valdier at gmail.com
>>>> Battlestations definitely is not a collectible game, it is a miniatures
>>>> / boardgame / RPG hybrid, but it primarily plays like a board game/minis
>>>> game (the latter more based on the table space it takes)
>>>>
>>>> -Jason Orman
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:52 PM Strategicon Department Heads <
>>>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Message From: Tanya Aldrich  taldrich at strategicon.net
>>>>> Thank you Tara!
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I’m looking for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just one clarification, currently “Roleplaying” on our site refers to
>>>>> “Tabletop Roleplaying” which I’m thinking your previous suggestion has more
>>>>> merit by the minute.
>>>>>
>>>>> With that in mind, is Boffer Showcase a LARP, Tabletop Roleplaying and
>>>>> War, or just LARP and war? Same question for Ghost Court.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for Battlestations, I decided to check it out a little on
>>>>> boardgamegeek. I see the board game. I can see the “Tabletop RPG”. I can
>>>>> even stretch it to Miniatures (which is where it usually runs), but I
>>>>> curious, how is it “Collectible”? I guess with 9 expansions some could see
>>>>> it as collectible, but that would make Carcassone collectible, and we’re
>>>>> not going there. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tanya
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 29, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <
>>>>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Message From: Tara Leederman  taleederman at gmail.com
>>>>> Alright, some examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> Battlestations could go into Board games, tabletop rpg, and
>>>>> collectibles.
>>>>>
>>>>> The boffer showcase which my department runs could be a LARP,
>>>>>  “Roleplaying,” and a war game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ghost Court could be a LARP, “Roleplaying,” and a Party Game.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you can see how this can easily get hairy. The best way to
>>>>> classify games is based on what kinds of players would want to play it and
>>>>> what kinds of resources a department can provide for it. The rest is just
>>>>> pointless classification and tortured data collecting on our part, and I
>>>>> don’t see how that serves the players.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tara
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows 10 device
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net>
>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 29, 2019 4:40 PM
>>>>> *To: *deptheads at strategicon.net
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Deptheads] Event Types
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now I really need to hear from everyone on any game that would
>>>>> fit in three or more distinct types. If I don’t hear by Noon on Thursday,
>>>>> I’m going to have to run with two types only.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can certainly consider listing “Live Action RPG” and “Tabletop
>>>>> RPG”. That would be an easy fix at any future point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tanya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 29, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Strategicon Department Heads <
>>>>> deptheads at strategicon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Message From: Tara Leederman  taleederman at gmail.com
>>>>> My first and main thought is that LARP and role playing are rather
>>>>> synonymous. You might want to instead go with the distinction of LARP vs.
>>>>> Tabletop RPG, because that is the main difference between mine and Jim’s
>>>>> departments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tara
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows 10 device
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net>
>>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:29 AM
>>>>> *To: *Strategicon Department Heads <deptheads at strategicon.net>
>>>>> *Subject: *[Deptheads] Event Types
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> For the purpose of event generation, Departments will be becoming
>>>>> Event Types.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m trying to figure out how to make things work right for all events.
>>>>> These are the two issues involving Event Types that I’m aware of.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Events running in areas not consistent with their real event type.
>>>>> i.e. Most Steve Jackson Games.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Events appropriate in multiple event types and often listing in
>>>>> multiple departments.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first one I can adapt to easily provided I know what lengths I
>>>>> have to go for the second one.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Here is where I need your help.*
>>>>> What is the likelihood of an event being appropriate for more than two
>>>>> event types? I need everyone to think hard. Can you think of any game that
>>>>> would really fit in more than two event types?
>>>>>
>>>>> For this exercise, please look at War Games and Party Games as
>>>>> splinter groups of Board & Card Games, and Adventurers’ League and
>>>>> Pathfinder Society as splinters of Roleplaying, which means they don’t need
>>>>> to be listed in the group they split from.
>>>>>
>>>>> *I need a list of such games.* If it’s long enough, I have to think
>>>>> hard how to handle the process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Events Types will be
>>>>>
>>>>> Board & Card Games
>>>>> Collectible Cards & Minis
>>>>> LARP
>>>>> Miniatures
>>>>> Party Games
>>>>> Roleplaying
>>>>> Adventurers’ League
>>>>> Pathfinder Society
>>>>> Video Games
>>>>> War Games
>>>>> General
>>>>>
>>>>> Event Classifications for users will be
>>>>>
>>>>> Event
>>>>> 101
>>>>> Demo
>>>>> Tournament
>>>>> Playtest
>>>>> Seminar
>>>>>
>>>>> Admins instead of Tournament will see
>>>>>
>>>>> Small Tournament
>>>>> Medium Tournament (selected)
>>>>> Big Tournament
>>>>> Mega Tournament
>>>>>
>>>>> Sponsored will be a checkbox seen by all.
>>>>> Special will be a checkbox seen by Admins only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for helping me help everyone make more sense of events.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tanya
>>>>>
>>>>>
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